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    Meditation: Meditate Poorly

    Meditation: Meditate Poorly


    Meditate Poorly

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 01:02 PM PST

    My goal these days is simply to "meditate poorly."

    I set that goal because it's often hard for me to meditate "well," and sometimes I sit there and it seems like nothing much is happening, or sometimes my kids are making too much noise in the next room. Sometimes I'm fairly sure that I've fallen asleep! But that's okay. I still find the practice helpful to my overall equanimity and mood.

    Virtually everything meaningful that we learn in this life requires trial and error, and our approach to whatever we learn is often pretty wonky at the outset. Meditation is similar. It is not always sublime, not always revelatory, and may often be simply what it is, which is sitting calmly and breathing. There may well be plateaus where one has the sense of making no "progress" (which is a funny idea, when you think about it). All of that is okay. Meditate poorly, if that is what works for you, and know that your poor meditation is just fine.

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    I think I'm slowly awakening to other peoples love for me.

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 11:22 PM PST

    I have spent a good deal of my life fearing that people disliked or hated me. The real truth is that most of this was a projection of my own feelings for myself born of early traumatic experiences with bullying and abandonment. The details do not mater except that I've spent many many years very unhappy. But this past year with therapy and mediation I have been changing slowly and drastically. There has been a softening within me. As I have healed internal wounds and let go of pain I've been able to slowly open up to love myself. It has not been an easy journey and I have posted about this. The ego has fought back and I often return to the old negative ways of thinking. But it's an ongoing process and I return to peace and self love over and over.

    One thing I just noticed today just now upon meeting a friend who has been struggling is that I think I'm slowly opening up too to the love and affection other people hold toward me. I have been slowly subtly aware of this over the past several years. I have grown close with my best friend and greatly value having him in my life. We go on regular walks and I can feel an affection for me just in the subtle ways we communicate. I've noticed this awareness slowly spreading of late as well. I had a heart to heart conversation with one of my coworkers the other day and felt much the same from him.

    Today when I met said friend she told me that she had gotten very angry at her step mom who had said to her that she did not have good friends. She said to her step mom that she had no fucking clue about her friends. And it dawned on me that her anger was actually a very touching expression of care for me indirectly. She didn't say this about me of course, and yes there is a degree of ego in this but I don't think it's out of line. She told me as well directly not long ago that "I'm lucky to have friends like you". The thing is I realized that my old negative way of viewing the world wanted to take offence at what her step mom had said I felt that maybe it was a correct judgment of me as not being a good friend to her. This always fearing what people think of me, of judgment. And I would have totally missed what was right in front of me, that her anger at her stepmom was actually a message about me and her other friends that was the total opposite, that she valued us!

    It's funny because in some ways these things seem obvious once you are aware of them. But they are also very subtle. Love and care is in the tone of voice, a gesture, the way a playful joke lands. If you are lost in self hate, fear, and judgment they are things you can SO easily miss!

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    Does it mean anything if you feel like you're going to die soon?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:33 AM PST

    My mental health is awful right now and I'm not taking the best care of myself at the moment. I'm trying the best I can but I have this really strong feeling that I'm going to die soon.

    I'm most likely just being paranoid considering that I'm nearing the light at the end of the tunnel in my life and I always think to myself how shitty it would be if I lost my life when I was so close to the end and all this effort would've been for nothing. Am I tripping or does this mean something?

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    Meditation Afterglow?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:41 AM PST

    I have been following a meditation routine for a while now. For the first few weeks I haven't been able to enter deep states of focus or progress in meditation which I believe was because of my mindset. I remember roughly a year ago when I last followed a regular meditation routine, I was able to enter really deep states of focus, and also began experiencing symptoms of Kundalini, which unfortunately caused me to stop my practice due to fear. This previous experience of meditation has caused me to have expectations, so the more I meditate, the more inpatient I become. This had now caused me to overanalyse things such as the position I sit in during practice, how intensely I focus on my breathing, why my eyes and forehead keep tensing up, etc.

    Yesterday however, I think I have had a re-breakthrough. I have learnt that the things my mind overanalyses are just another distraction, and that the only thing I have to do is simply return to the breath. This resulted me in entering a deeper state of focus. Not only that, but I felt an improvement in my mental well-being afterwards, with my mental well-being being reason I originally began meditation.

    So my question is, is this improvement in mood a result of me entering a deeper state of mediation? Or could it just be because I'm happy that I've finally began to understand the fundamentals of meditation again?

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    Does anyone here use Insight timer app?

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 04:56 AM PST

    I have recently started working (well, more seriously as I had this app for a while on my phone) with Insight Timer app, and I meditate with only the background Deep Om sound and it is amazing. I feel I am getting much better at focusing on the present moment and the wandering mind of course is still there from time to time, but the quiet times are increasing. I don't know if it is this background sound that is helping me focus or that I started doing my meditation first thing in the morning... anyway, I also wanted to say that I really found this app interesting enough to stick to it.

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    Samadhi point during meditation.

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:36 AM PST

    So I was laying on my back meditating and i realized that I had been in a blissful state for a while. I will try to describe this state the best I can, someone please explain;

    So i was on my back, and I had actually forgotten that I existed. Im also in pitch black so that may explain it. I was in a state of bliss but its not like a dopamine high or like a feel good thing, but it is bliss! It is a bliss i have never experienced before so its a little scary. I have experienced a different state of being while meditating, and it was also unexplainable but it was waaaay different. It may help to add that i have technically been meditating on my back all night, occasionally falling asleep. I just want to return there and stay.

    I actually kind of get scared from the lack of my existence there if that makes sense.

    Does anyone know what this is? How can I build this up and do it more?

    Btw, I know most people will not know what I am talking about. If you are not have any idea then please don't say anything.

    Edit: i just went back there and it was so free. It feels like a big open space.

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    The best fruits come from the devotion of healthy roots

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:21 AM PST

    Approaching the end of the headspace app, could use guidance for next steps.

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 08:19 PM PST

    I have gone through all of the headspace basics and pro level courses and at this point I'm not interested in using the other meditations because they are all guided with interruptions to promote focus and in his pro level courses he teaches you to meditate in total silence for the duration of the time which I now prefer.

    My point being is once I finish this last course I plan on ending my subscription to the app and meditating using a timer or finding a new practice. I also just ordered The Power of Now and plan on reading but am interested in learning more about meditation and finding a teacher/podcast/etc. Mostly am interested in finding what's next for my practice and interested in any/all advice or where to go next!

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    Not good at relationships

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 01:05 PM PST

    Hey I've been feeling pretty isolated lately. I've realised that all my relationships are not to my liking and that when I look at myself I see someone who wants to feel worthy, but doesn't know how to go about building strong connections or a healthy sense of self to present to the world. This makes me feel down on myself because this year I had a minor experience of self esteem for once in my life and I want to get back to being able to relate to the world in a healthy cooperative way. If anyone has had any experience with low self esteem and overcame it, please leave some advice in the comments.

    Thanks

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    How to observe thoughts

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 05:07 PM PST

    I keep on sitting down to observe my thoughts but this thought that I'm not doing it right keeps popping up and it drives me crazy. Some come and they're like you are getting too involved with them and then a whole bunch of emotions come. And i know you're supposed to just let them come and go but it's like damn idk if i am doing it wrong or right. Sometimes i catch myself thinking like that aha moment but idk if that's even right and it's kinda driving me crazy

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    Meditation in addiction

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 11:44 PM PST

    Is it possible to cure any addiction with meditation?

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    Borderline personality disorder

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 11:37 PM PST

    Anyone here with BPD who can share their stories between meditating and living with the illness?

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    Help me figure out what is wrong with me

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 09:06 PM PST

    I've noticed something honestly maddening but since being aware of it, i suppose i can work on it

    when i talk to people, i unconsciously pay full attention to the voice in my head rather than listen to the actual sound of my voice or another persons during conversation. this sickens me, i literally live in my head

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    Overthinking

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 08:45 PM PST

    Hey guys I feel like this community knows most about overthinking. Simple question but complex problem, I'm a really bad over thinker and it's ruining my happiness. How do I stop over thinking??

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    Is this what people call meditation?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 02:27 AM PST

    I don't know what meditation is. Since I did acid for the first time (about 2 months ago) I discovered that I can do some strange things before sleep, after 10 minutes of lying in bed with closed eyes my mind just take control of itself while I'm awake (Sometimes with vivid visuals), I usually can't remember when it's over so I can't really tell what it's like. I always realize that I'm in this situation but I don't want to end it because I love this part of the night. But it can't be longer than 10 minutes because I just fall asleep. Yesterday I tried this while sitting on the bed and the results was kind of the same. Is this meditation or some other thing?

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    Towards the end of today’s session I thought:

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 02:15 AM PST

    You're gonna do great today! The peace you currently feel will reside in you throughout the day! I work in customer service, so I'm reminding myself that no one can take my inner peace, because it's mine! And I look forward to returning to this peace at the end of my day, if life's events get me distracted.

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    New to meditation, don’t know where to start.

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 02:14 AM PST

    Hello lovely people! I am new to this sub and to the world of meditation, I have heard it helps center yourself and sometimes helps with mental disorders. I have been struggling with Bipolar II for most of my life, and I have heard meditation might be beneficial for me and my overall well being. I honestly don't know where to start or how to begin. Might sound super stupid but I was hoping some people with more experience might be able to point me in the right direction. Thank you so much in advance 🙏🏼

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    New to meditation

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 01:44 AM PST

    I am not completely new to meditation. I hve been trying to do meditation,but i start to get millions of thoughts popped up ,so from about a week,i am doing guided meditation.

    Any suggestions or tips please!

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    Tips for staying awake during lying meditation? Cannot sit for long due to spinal problems

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 04:44 PM PST

    Hello,

    While meditating for 30min+ lying down I sometimes notice myself by the end of the session losing my ability to refocus on my breath as my mind drifts away. It feels like my mind is starting to go for a nice swim, but for the times I am NOT trying to go to sleep, how can I maintain alertness while lying down?

    Are there any specific body positions people do? Should I play some disturbing white noise or something?

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    My relationship on mindfulness and motivation

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 07:14 PM PST

    Background

    • M30
    • Meditating for about 5 years
    • 15 -30 minutes per day 4-7 days a week

    After about 6 months, I was hooked. I knew that meditation was profoundly shaping have conscious experience; I'd spent my ENTIRE teenage years and early 20s inside my head. The benefits were all so clear.... almost all my encounters with people were pleasant, I feel back in love with nature and being alone and I started to see modest gains in my dating life.

    My only issue with mindfulness was that I found myself less able to motivate myself. Those 4 tasks I don't wanna do at work, that extra 20 minutes at the gym, even just washing my face before bed. More and more of this seemed "unessential". Is the 20 minutes at the gym for vanity? Am I facing my face/having a SK routine vanity? This has been the monkey on my back with meditation and mindfulness. Nothing but positive benefits except this. I couldn't tap into my "zone-out-but-just-get-shit-done-mode". I'm not saying it was the best version of myself (if wasn't), but it always felt okay because it was in effort for something better in the future. A better job, a better date, a better body, you'll be happier if you crossed going to the dentist off your list, etc..

    I believe my main issue is that when I am deeply present, I can feel that I am working out mostly for vanity, I am working hard at my job just for more money, I am cleaning up because I'm afraid I'll be judged. And, when I am deeply present I don't want those to be my motivations, but I also struggle to find healthier motivations to get me through unpleasant tasks. Or, do I just need to accept unpleasantness for what it is? I don't love this route because I have found gratefulness to be such a better motivator....wait, maybe that is what I need to tap into more ????

    Does any one else struggle with enjoying their current lifestyle, but realize they may not being true to themselves (working in a career for money, spending your time on you looks). My issue seems to be that when I think I am deeply mindful I still can't feel exactly what I want to do with my life. Is this just desire taking a hold of me? I want to have goals and motivation, but so often when I am mindful, I don't want to do anything by sit be mindful.

    TLDR: I feel much more mindful, but my motivation is struggling. Was I previously motivated by ego driven desires? Or, am I not properly tapping into the present in a way that can be productive and top of my shit.

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    Mono VS duality

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 07:10 PM PST

    How would you define what mono vs non-mono in Buddhism means?

    Everyone is as real as you are? Everything exist - that is truth? This also means endless possibilities - depending on how far or near you want to travel. Accept reality as a form, as essence-less shape. Is that what means being mono vs dual?

    Or os it more like Mono no aware?

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    "There's no time like the present" – Meditation gives it a whole new meaning!

    Posted: 10 Nov 2020 05:33 PM PST

    An old saying that usually means don't procrastinate, don't put things off, "there's no time like the present" so why wait? "We're here, it's now, let's do it!"

    Meditators train themselves to live and be in the present moment. So don't put it off – meditate today, twice if possible, all day long if you've advanced to it. There really is no time like the present! – Paine 🙏🏻

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    I am finding it difficult to meditate because

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:58 AM PST

    I keep getting anxiety. I have meditated for a month a long time back and I know how the end result feels like-calm and clear mind. Now when I am trying again to meditate, my mind gets disappointed easily when I am unable to have a proper focus or I am unable to feel that end result. It's really frustrating and is interfering with my growth. Any advice on this problem?

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    Nicotine and antidepressants

    Posted: 11 Nov 2020 12:53 AM PST

    I've been taking Prozac for about a year and it hasn't been super helpful for treating my depression. I don't chew or smoke, other than the few times I chewed tobacco on deployment to help deal with pain due to a hernia while waiting of surgery. Remembering how it had helped me back then, and feeling really down, I decided to give chewing tobacco a shot. It really works as a temporary fix! I want to find some medication that can help and was wondering if anyone has had experiences with medication that has worked similarly to nicotine.

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