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    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - September 07 2020

    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - September 07 2020


    Weekly Discussion - September 07 2020

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    This is a reoccuring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences.

    Questions

    Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our FAQ before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally.

    Discussion

    Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated.

    Also check out the monthly meditation challenge.

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    Wash the dishes to wash the dishes: a helpful tip from Thich Nhat Hanh

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 09:11 AM PDT

    I've been rereading The Miracle of Mindfulness by Thich Nhat Hanh and came across this excerpt, which has become integral to my meditation practice.

    Washing the dishes to wash the dishes

    There are two ways to wash the dishes. The first is to wash the dishes in order to have clean dishes and the second is to wash the dishes in order to wash the dishes.

    If while washing the dishes, we think only of the cup of tea that awaits us, thus hurrying to get the dishes out of the way as if they were a nuisance, then we are not "washing the dishes to wash the dishes." What's more, we are not alive during the time we are washing the dishes.

    In fact we are completely incapable of realizing the miracle of life while standing at the sink. If we can't wash the dishes, the chances are we won't be able to drink our tea either. While drinking the cup of tea, we will only be thinking of other things, barely aware of the cup in our hands. Thus we are sucked away into the future – and we are incapable of actually living one minute of life.

    Thich Nhat Hanh prescribes this attitude for every waking moment, but I've found it especially useful for framing my meditation practice, and it's helped me meditate longer than previously, with a profound mindfulness.

    I've found, like most people, that the thoughts that arise during meditation eventually try to convince me to cut my meditation short. Having this reframing of "meditating to meditate" and not "meditating to receive X benefits" really changed the nature of the game, and makes those usually compelling thoughts weak and not influential.

    Try to apply this perspective the next time you meditate -- or wash the dishes, or do anything else. I'm betting that you'll feel the difference.

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    I want this life to be a good life for everyone

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 09:01 PM PDT

    I want everyone to be safe and feed and happy

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    Mindfulness and meditation can worsen depression and anxiety (in a small number of cases)

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 04:08 AM PDT

    While generally beneficial, per this NewScientist article about one in 12 people who try meditation might experience a worsening in depression or anxiety. The article refers to a meta-study done at Coventry University.

    If you are seeing bad effects from your practice, a psychotherapist who was interviewed suggested opting for guided meditation sessions with a teacher.

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    I cried during a meditation and I want that feeling back

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 01:52 AM PDT

    I'm a beginner to meditation and have been doing it consistently for 22 days now (I missed a day, but got right back to it). It's one of the last things I do for the day, as well as writing in a journal. About a week ago, I was looking for advice and saw someone recommend insight timmer to help meditate and so I tried it with their beginner 7 day guided meditation course. It was day 4 or 5, when the narrator talked about implanting a word that I wanted more of in my life as a seed to allow to grow as life goes on. I thought about a couple different words, but I ended up choosing "pride" and thinking that I want to feel proud of myself and my life more than anything else. Like a flash, I saw images of what I wanted to become. Like I was peaking into a perfect future where all the goals I have set for myself were achieved and I was truly happy with the progress I've made in life. I began to cry, but didn't even realize it until I opened my eyes after the recording was done and felt a surge of motivation to achieve my vision. However, lately it seems that after that time, meditation hasn't been the same. I am easily distracted, my thoughts take control, and my head feels foggy like I just can't think straight. I want that feeling I had then back. Am I asking for too much? Where do I go to next from here? I've been beginning to think it might be because I listen to a meditation playlist on Spotify and that may be distracting me, but I'm not sure. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this if you got this far. Any comments are greatly appreciated.

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    528Hz Music / Manifest Positive Transformation / Heal Golden Chakra /Ent...

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 04:12 AM PDT

    Results from an study overseas study suggests that the influence of music on the autonomic nervous system and endocrine system varies depending on the frequency of the music and furthermore, that 528 Hz music has an especially strong stress-reducing effect, even following only five minutes of exposure.

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    Why can't I clear my mind when I meditate, even though I can easily control my body.

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 05:39 AM PDT

    I meditate every day, but I've only been doing so for a few months. I've recently gotten to the point where I can easily slip my body into a state of pure relaxation in under 3 minutes. My body feels in line with my soul, but my mine and physically my head and anything above my neck never seem to cooperate. My brain is always running a million miles a minute, and it often feels like my mind is just completely disconnected from the soul and body. How should I approach this and are there things I can focus on to overcome this?

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    Stillness.

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 05:38 AM PDT

    When meditating I've been experiencing absolute stillness, where I can basically calm my mind to not think at all. Is this what I should be doing? I'm still very much a beginner in this world.

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    Will I be able to do this again?

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 05:27 AM PDT

    I have been meditating a fair bit recently and have improved in my ability to become still/one etc. I just did some meditation with a mantra of "opening" upon inhale and "releasing on the exhale. I got really into it, my breaths became really deep and I started losing track of time, when suddenly my whole being starting tingling heavily, it felt like I was vibrating!

    At this point I got a little scared I was somehow starving myself of oxygen and opened my eyes/breathed normally, but the pulsating feeling kept rolling in heavy waves, bathing me in waves of endorphins as I closed my eyes again. This continued for a bit until I got tired of the buzzing, brought my breathing back to normal and "woke up." I now feel a sharp focus.

    I guess, apart from just wanting to say: wow this is so cool I can't believe this happened to me! I'm wondering- do you experience vastly different sensations sometimes performing the same meditation practices? In the past I normally just feel really relaxed, but this felt like a genuine physical effect.

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    How do I meditate with dark thoughts?

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 11:28 PM PDT

    I often try to learn meditation but it usually involved being alone with my thoughts. I don't like my thoughts. I try distracting my depression, anxiety, and the other dark thing sin my life that naturally come up with things like video games and politics. But when all of that is removed, it's just the dark empty void of stress. How do I stop having dark thoughts constantly?

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    Starting to see my little self.

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 09:14 PM PDT

    Hey friends,

    I have been reading Shunryu Suzuki's book recently, A Zen Mind, A Beginners Mind, which discusses the idea that we are composed of a little self and a bigger self. My understanding of the idea is that our little self represents our hopes, fears, desires, and certain thoughts and feelings entangled within those presences. Our big self on the other hand, is aware that death is inevitable and any moment could be our last. So we should be with the moment how we would be with our breath, enjoying it despite the weather.

    I think I am starting to see my little self. My little self is there when I lose and I am angry. When I start something hoping for an outcome and constantly being disappointed if my hopes don't match reality. My little self is there when I compare myself to someone else, feeling superior or inferior. My little self is there when I lose patience with someone or judge them. My little self is there to distract myself from suffering with stimulation like weed or porn. My little self is there, unsure if things are going to be ok. All the while my big self is somewhere there, knowing that everything is alright.

    peace out girl scout

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    How to get good at accepting things as they are?

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 04:14 PM PDT

    I have noticed that a large amount of my suffering comes from being annoyed that things are not how I expect them to be. This ranges from, something blatantly out of my control as missing a bus to me doing something for someone and not getting the expected reaction.

    I have realised that I am completely and utterly not in control of my circumstance or the reactions of others. I cannot stop getting annoyed when things are not the way I expect them to be, which causes unnecessary suffering.

    Does anyone have a strategy to help accept things as they are?

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    This practice will destroy all delusions, lies, falsehood, personhood so only god/awareness is present

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 04:19 AM PDT

    This practice will destroy all delusions, lies, falsehood, personhood so only god/awareness is present

    When ego is playing its games and it appears that it is overpowering you, notice it is only overpowering who you think you are, not the consciousness in which it all appears.

    There is still some belief in ego lingering around deep inside, and at some point, it just comes out no matter what, and this is good. You really want to get all of the false outside of your being and presence.

    Let me assure you that it is completely natural and these are birthing pains, you are truly birthing the infinite in a way therefore you are aware of experiencing this pain and seemingly burping out all the things stored up inside your being that are not original to your nature. All that is not true is dissolving and it appears like backlash in the mind, and you are perceiving a surge of thoughts, emotions and sensations, but there is an awareness of all of this. Stay in the place in which you are aware of that which is aware of this taking place.

    So you had a few days of amazing clarity and now it seems like you are completely lost, no idea where you are and you have completely lost your self. What do we do?

    These are just thoughts. The only clarity there is, is when the attention is resting on the awareness which is aware of the present moment. A thought says "I am lost, no idea where I am, lost my self" etc. Your self is always right here. It is that which is aware of all these thoughts taking place. The clarity is simply seeing that you are one with that in which it all appears.

    Observe. Anything that comes up, observe. These days you might be feeling like you are extremely aware of the ego and you have a voice there that says "Wow fuck you ego, this is all because of you, because of you I am suffering right now, go to hell, I will kill you!". You might not be aware but this one is actually ego too. If you are to transcend this illusion of suffering, you should be observing with detachment this voice that is appearing to be 2. You should be completely silent and cocooned in your being, simply watching this play going on instead of talking back to the ego and saying how he is to blame, that is his strategy actually. To lure you back into fighting with him, and therefore into identification with him; inevitably suffering appears also.

    No matter what kind of thoughts, emotions or sensations are appearing inside consciousness, do not fight back. Simply observe. Once you observe them with detachment (by being aware of that which is aware of the present moment) they naturally dissolve and go like the cloud they are. If you fight back or give importance to thoughts, emotions and sensations then that is perpetuating them and will cause them to stay longer than they originally should, momentary. Instead, simply be aware of that which is aware of the present moment. This is your true nature.

    Identify the ego. You might be feeling extremely insecure, anxious, confused and suffering these days, and the most effective thing you can do is ask your self at these times: "Who is insecure/anxious/confused/suffering" once you actually ask this question, and LOOK in the present moment instead of giving an automatic answer out of habit "me", you will SEE that actually there is nothing happening at all. Once you see that this sufferer, this insecure identity, this anxious identity does not actually exist and is not a real thing in the present moment, it completely loses its power. You already KNOW that spirit can't suffer. The only thing that can suffer is the projections of the identity you are believing yourself to be. Instead, know yourself to be the spirit by being aware of that which is aware of the present moment.

    So, if you are feeling insecure, and you KNOW that consciousness/awareness/Brahman/self CAN'T feel insecure, you can simply ask the question "who is feeling insecure?" and suddenly you will see that you are completely detaching your self from this insecurity, and you are able to see clearly that it is not you. Once you see it is not you, it means that you stop identifying with it. If you do not identify with insecurity, you are not insecure, nor are you suffering.The same thing you do for every other emotion or thought that comes up. Now, do not get cocky and use this for only the negative emotions. You might get through the negative emotions/thoughts stage and the ego will now try another strategy, a strategy of trying to make you feel good. He might start using pride and other "positive" egoic traits.

    So once pride comes up, do not feed it! Then and there, once you notice this happening ask "Who is the one prideful?" and LOOK. If you simply ignore this pride because it makes you feel good, it is the egos play to make you attached to this pride and then he will be able to comeback with its other techniques of insecurity, anxiety, etc. The only way to completely transcend the ego is not to feed none of its negative thoughts/emotions and none of its positive thoughts/emotions. You are to stay completely neutral, observing it all, aware of it all. You are not here to play games and to have some kind of positive ego or to feel good about your self. You are here to overcome this vicious cycle of illusions and suffering completely, and if you slip on one of the stages it will take you back a few steps, so do not bother.

    The ego WILL definitely make thoughts doubt your self. Whenever these appear, notice simply it is the ego trying to bring doubt in you; do not perpetuate it, redirect the attention towards that which is aware of the present moment. Be aware of that which is aware of the present moment. Here all doubt, fear and falsehoods are rapidly dissolving so that only pure awareness is left. This awareness which is your true nature has the perfume of joy, love, peace and compassion naturally, it is fearless and effortless, this is your true life, everything else is just the mind-realm, that you must transcend as soon as possible. Be aware of that which is aware of the present moment. Don't waste your time on thoughts.

    - Sebastian Key

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    Does it?

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 11:34 PM PDT

    Meditation made me more anxious

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 02:41 AM PDT

    I just did this guided meditation from Yoga with Adriene and for some reason once we got into the breathing sequence, it made me extremely anxious. Why might that be?

    This is the first time a guided meditation has made me more anxious than I was starting. And I've done this guided one a few times and went back to it specifically because the breathing sequence has helped me calm down in the past.

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    Which Is the Best Yoga for Mental Health?

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 02:29 AM PDT

    Are you craving to have an answer to which is the best yoga for mental health? Have a look at the best poses of yoga to calm and enhance your mind. Read my blog https://yogafordepression.us/blog/which-is-the-best-yoga-for-mental-health/

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    Meditating while lying down

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 10:30 PM PDT

    Iv'e noticed people in the sub talk about meditating while sitting down, but i didn't see anyone mention meditation while lying down. Iv'e been meditating for about 4 months now, and am very pleased with the practice. I went into it without reading anything, and tried thinking about nothing. It wasn't easy in the first month, but it's pretty satisfying now as i also have no specific goal to achieve. I just lay on my back in bed, sometimes i fall asleep which i understand is fine. So i am curious, does anybody else meditate while lying on their back?

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    What is your favourite meditation?

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 01:56 AM PDT

    Really cool philosophy discord. They talk about Stoic philosophy and have: current events, debates, meetups and generally just chat. Thought I would share, great place to learn about meditation.

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 12:48 AM PDT

    What is the best meditation for fire signs?

    Posted: 08 Sep 2020 12:25 AM PDT

    Hi!

    Looking to get more into meditation. I tried a yoga class a while ago, but it wasn't what I was looking for. I'm looking more for meditation over yoga. I feel very deeply connected to my fire element and my zodiac chart, and I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions of meditations that are really good for fire elements. Thanks.

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    A different type of mediation?

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 06:26 PM PDT

    Is there a type of mediation or a yoga practise that can help me understand my body better as a dancer? perhaps discovering parts of my body that I couldn't move? I want to increase my bodily awareness as much as possible. What is the way to go?

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    Bring Positive Transformation / Heal Golden Chakra / Wholebody Cell Repair

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 11:41 PM PDT

    Advances Healthy Endocrine System, Lowers the cortisol levels which in turn advances cell recovery and fixes. This kind of rest music is exceptionally viable, as a large portion of the cell level fixes occur around evening time.

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    How to reduce internal self-correction talk while meditating ?

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 10:08 AM PDT

    I have been meditating consistently for 8 months now daily once or twice for 30 to 40 minutes. I have occasionally reached deeper level of conciousness and the blankness. It is amazing feeling of true blissness, stillness and awareness that cannot be put into words.

    My problem is that in 80 percent of my meditation sessions, i am unable to get to this deep level of awareness. As per my observations, its mostly because of continous self correction talk inside of me. ( I am able to let go of all my surroundings and current life situational thoughts, but its harder to get rid of self correcting talk trying to help me get to deeper level of meditation) Example -

    "You are doing good you will get there, Don't deviate, look at the blankness, look at the deep darkness, let that thought go, you may not be able to get to deep level of meditation today, thats ok, Your breathing is very slow now and thats great for meditation, i got few minutes remaining focus on meditation, i am not my body, i am not my mind, if i get ot the deep level meditation today, i can accomplish this task later today much efficiently etc etc etc"

    All this self fulfilling and unconcious talk takes away my moments of my precious meditation time. I know this is my own mind playing games to avoid getting to the deeper levels of awareness.

    And when i open my eyes although physically I feel relaxed, mentally I am mostly the same before the meditation.

    Are there any advice or suggestions or you can provide to reduce and get rid of this internal talk which is mostly trying to help me get to deep level of meditation but its counter-intuitive ?

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    30 Minutes Relaxing Music,Calm Music,Piano Instrumental, Meditation,Yoga...

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 11:07 PM PDT

    New 30 minutes video suitable for #relaxation #meditation .Go check it out and subscribe .
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    Tips for a beginner that tries to battle depression and anxiety.

    Posted: 07 Sep 2020 07:50 AM PDT

    Hello i am a guy in his early 20s that battles with anxiety and depression for about 6 years now. I need to develop more healthy habbits and im very interested in meditating to become more happy, relaxed and less stressed and scared of this huge and overwhelming world. I tried meditating once before but i stopped after 2 weeks my depression got the better of me during these times. I am ready and determined to make it a regular habbit by now. Im ready to become more active in pursuing a happier life. I am really thankful for all the advice that you can give me.

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