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    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - October 12 2020

    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - October 12 2020


    Weekly Discussion - October 12 2020

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    This is a reoccuring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences.

    Questions

    Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our FAQ before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally.

    Discussion

    Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated.

    Also check out the monthly meditation challenge.

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    Take daily steps to realize there are no steps to take.

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 07:10 AM PDT

    As long as you seek an answer, it means you lack an answer.

    If you seek to be free of conflict you are in conflict.

    The reason that you want to be better is the reason you are not.

    When you stop looking for the answer, you will be free to enjoy the flow, like water that flows down the path of least resistance, not trying to go anywhere.

    Simple? Yes. Easy? Not at all. After years of searching, it only recently becomes apparent. But trying to grasp that concept defeats the concept. So be that space, the calm space the wind blows through, and let it all go through.

    You're not the wave in the ocean. You are the ocean. The wave is just a current expression before it returns.

    I also wanted an Arsenal of thoughts to combat the anxiety. Then it became too many and I wish it was simpler. And I realize it was. It doesn't require much; in fact it requires you to do nothing. I was happy to know it was so simple. But difficult.

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    "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a mosquito" Dalai Lama

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 08:10 AM PDT

    Keep your head up and spread love. That is all :)

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    We do not need to try to do anything while meditating.

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 07:32 PM PDT

    A lot of people believe meditation means trying to quiet the mind. I've recently realized that you don't need to try turn off your thoughts.

    Trying to turn thoughts off will make you discouraged. Especially when just starting a meditation practice. Instead try starting with the breath and when you find your mind wandering, don't immediately steer away from the thought. Don't kick yourself for thinking. Just acknowledge it. Maybe explore the thought more. Then just return to the breath whenever you're ready.

    Over time as you continue to meditate regularly, it will get easier to stay with your breath and you'll notice there are moments in between thoughts. Once you are aware of your thoughts coming and going, you can start to be aware of how each thought makes you feel, and why they are arising in the first place. You can choose to take an interesting thought on a ride and inquire within yourself. Or notice the thought has no benefit and come back to the breath.

    Some of my best thoughts come from meditation! I love to sit in silence and just breathe, but I also love to contemplate whatever is on the mind.

    Don't look for love in the past or future. Don't try to remember how it felt. Don't try to predict how it is going to feel. Feel it now. Love is here. In every breath. Every lungful of air. The wind. The smells coming from the kitchen. The sound of the rain.

    Love is bigger than hate. Hate comes and goes quick like a violent storm. Love is in every breeze.

    Thanks for reading! Any thoughts are appreciated!

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    "I don't like meditating because I'm afraid of what will come up."

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 09:25 PM PDT

    I've had a two friends say this to me now when asking about my own practice, and how I do it. And I've been thinking about it for weeks.

    A long time ago I felt that way, and its like having a huge, beautiful house. And choosing to live in the entry way with the door to the rest of the house barred closed. There's a monster in the house, rampaging around. Its always there, and you know its always there. Sometimes you can hear it trashing things, most times you can't, but you're always spending some energy ignoring it. Every now and again you need something from inside the house, so you open the door and tunnel vision on what you need. Ignore the damage, don't look around, and pray the monster doesnt show up.

    Meditation is the way to make your home yours again. You can of course kick in the door and stride in, naked and unafraid. But you don't have to. You can just crack the door and let the house come to you. You'll start to see the damage, and you can spend time with it. Sometimes you'll get unlucky and the monster will come, you can always close the door. But if you do it every day, little by little, you'll start to know your house again. And this isn't the process of fixing the house, or dealing with the monster. Those are whole other ordeals, but meditation is how you see it for what it is. And you won't get to know every nook and cranny of the home until the monster is dealt with, killed or befriended. But my friends who refuse to meditate are just living in the entry way, and I think a lot, if not most people are. There is so much more to know, and all you have to do is have the courage to close your eyes and watch.

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    Is sleep meditation just as beneficial as practicing while awake?

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 10:15 PM PDT

    I like to use mediation to fall asleep and use guided mediations that are designed specifically for that purpose. Is there more benefits to practicing meditation while awake? I just feel like using it to sleep is sort of a different kind of thing than practicing while awake.

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    It's hard work being someone all the time

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 06:13 AM PDT

    All the names, memories, people, thoughts, and ideas that are attached to "me" is like a full jumbo jet. I just need everyone to get off for a little while and then we can get back to flying.

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    Mindfulness has changed me in the best ways possible

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 11:39 PM PDT

    I've had a lot of anxiety lately due to trying to figure out what I want to do for a career after I finish high school, so I've been writing a mantra/positive quote in a little book, keeping a gratitude journal and meditating everyday. Now whenever I have a negative thought about myself or others, I replace that negative thought with a compassionate thought. For example, my best friend of 10 years stopped talking to me a couple months ago without explaining herself. And although I did my best to be there for here (through texts, drawings and handwritten letters), she barely communicated back. I've been extremely judgmental of myself and her for it. But the other day, after sending a very long loving text and her response being a simple thanks, I automatically took a deep breath and sent her compassion. Another thing I've noticed is that I get angry pretty easily now. I've never been known to get angry. But I'm able to catch myself and do a short meditation as well and find things I'm grateful for. Lastly, I have a history of really bad sleep anxiety. For as long as I've been alive, I gotten these episodes of sleep anxiety in which I go to bed and instead of sleeping I panic because I'm not able to fall asleep. And in that panic, I cry and break down and can't breathe. It usually gets so bad that I have to sleep with my mom. Although it's not completely cured, mindfulness has made my sleep anxiety much easier to handle and I'm extremely grateful for that.

    I know it's a small success, but I feel really good! The reason I'm sharing this with all of you is because you're part of the reason I started practicing mindfulness in the first place, and I couldn't be more grateful for you all!

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    I’m too scared to meditate

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 07:53 PM PDT

    I'm scared. Everytime i meditate i always saw an orb of light. Sometimes its just so big that it crushing down and my whole body is tremble. Sometimes i saw a lil kid, which it said it represent myself. Desperately asking for help. But i was like ???? Wot is happening. Other time i heard woman voice saying hi and offer me a hand to go deep into consciousness. The other day i somehow manage to feel the "other" present, this happens in alot of time, i can feel their present, i can see them, i can sense that they are aware of my state as well. Its just all weird thing happened when i'm meditate. Just- what happened? I want to achieve peacefulness as people said you know 😭

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    Hello everyone!! Nice to be part of this amazing group! Has anyone recently been experiencing being able to hear a higher pitched frequency almost like white noise behind every sound that occurs during the day and at night?

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 08:15 PM PDT

    Relaxing Nature Meditation playlist - Open for suggestions

    Posted: 13 Oct 2020 02:09 AM PDT

    Check out this calm meditation playlist. open for submissions or suggestions

    https://hypeddit.com/link/ghqgyu

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    Same time

    Posted: 13 Oct 2020 02:04 AM PDT

    So I stopped meditating because the rona has had me unmotivated and messed up, but as I'm getting back into it, I keep stopping at 7 minutes on accident. This has happened a few times. I look at the time before I start, and look at the time when I finish, and it's always 7 minutes. What's with that?

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    Story of root words about meditation and the hint beyond the Buddha's usage the word "Sati"

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 10:03 PM PDT

    I am moved by a fellow's ( u/iamonthatloud) entry who has honored me already by calling me professor and I gathered my attention after a long day to write about some of my thoughts to reddit, which is my one and only place to talk such thing.

    My original entry was intended as a reply to another fellow but i wanted it to be posted on the sub and so may it be seen, argued and thought upon.

    I will give you 4 words. These words, which i call root words are very familiar to us. Here is their story.

    Enlightment , when it is used to pure beginner, it represents an idea of aim, something to strive for, something which can be ultimate answer to deep questions.

    This seeking for an answer is the result of misunderstanding of enlightment. Both questionin or not questioning are about questioning. Enlightment means not bothered with the concept of questioning or answers, which is freedom.

    The moment is complete. Live in it without any expectation.

    Another root word is meditation. It is so close to thinking in western tradition. There is a book "Meditations" by Caesar Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Augustus.

    "Meditations is a collection of notes Marcus wrote to himself while emperor of which he never intended to be published. These notes span a variety of topics and for Marcus were an exercise to help him think clearly and rationally. " (google)

    Look at what Hannah Arendt says about the word meditation:

    "According to traditions of Christian time, when philosophy had become the handmaiden of theology, thinking became meditation, and meditation again ended in contemplation, a kind of blessed state of the soul where the mind was no longer stretching out to know the truth but, in anticipation of a future state, received it temporarily in intuition. (Descartes, characteristically, still influenced by this tradition, called the treatise in which he set out to demonstrate God's existence Méditations.)"

    Meditation is a problematic word. I heard J.K Zinn making jokes about wearing t-shirts which writes "Meditation is not what you think." Funny but sad. This thinking lingers in the meaning of meditation. It obstacles people. It is not so easy to explain the practice itself. Peoples subconciously lean on thinking.

    In Tibetan language, most of you know, the practice is called "gom". It means "being familiar with". The meaning speaks itself. Such a great word. I heard Mingyur Rinpoche saying "don't meditate" over and over again in his videos.

    Another root word: Mind means both heart and mind in eastern languages.

    Another problematic root word is awareness. It is "sati" in Pali. Sati highly involves memory, awareness does not. Nowadays I am reading a book " Mindfulness Where It Comes From and What It Means" by Sarah Shaw. In her book, she says;

    "In the fifth century BCE, in India, the Buddha changed the use of the Sanskrit word for memory (smṛti). The new meaning appeared quite different; as sati, in Pāli, it came to be associated with an attentive awareness to present events, what we now know in English as mindfulness."

    Several pages later, she goes on;

    "Thus, although the Buddhist tradition changed the orientation of the word smṛti (or sati), for reasons we do not know, it never entirely lost its original meaning. As we shall see in the next chapter, by the time of the first Buddhist texts, the word mindfulness undergoes a primary shift in meaning from its Vedic associations to suggest a kind of alertness and wakefulness to events in the present moment."

    Now...

    In my humble opinion, Buddha didn't change the meaning of the word "sati". He delibaretely used it because awareness is memory. Let me explain.

    Awareness is realising/noticing what goes around you. It needs recognising the moment. Recognising and adapting (using recognition) needs a very short memory. It is instant memory. It is our RAM.*

    It works itself, we are most of the time unconsious about. Are you consious of your muscles while your sitting? It is like that. But you can be consious of it .It is being aware of awareness. Awareness sometimes weakens but it can be improved by mental exercises like "gom". And with enough practice you can always be aware of your awareness which is freedom.

    Without awareness, we can't memorise anything. We can't even hold things, say a poem, in our RAM, in our awareness, to process before shipping them to our long-term memory. Buddha knew this. That is why he used "sati" which also will be my cat's name.

    *Random Access Memory in computer science

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    Anxiety or inner peace

    Posted: 13 Oct 2020 12:12 AM PDT

    At time of meditation many time I can feel my heart throbbing against my chest so is this some anxiety or some inner peace I attained? Is this normal to everyone or only I am facing?

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    Beginning my Journey

    Posted: 13 Oct 2020 12:03 AM PDT

    Hey guys. For the past year or 2 i feel like i been going through Alot of ups and downs with my general mind state. overthinking things, then feeling really depressed and then everything shatters around me due to me just ruining things by shutting everything out. i haven't been diagnosed with anything and taken the necessary help but Until now. this community motivated me to Connect with my inner self and get myself help. and really learn meditation and things in that nature.

    I started trying to meditate. and for some moments I been able to kinda clear my mind and its so new to me because i never been at peace like that before. I dont know if this happened to anyone else but as i was meditating i felt like i seen lights and strays of light like i was in space or something. it was pretty dope.

    Hoping this journey goes well . any tips for meditating, raising vibrations or reads, videos that i can check out?

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    Inner critic gets very strong when I to be productive

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 11:57 PM PDT

    One thing I've noticed whenever I'm doing a form of meditation or just trying to be productive at work or learning something new is that my inner critic gets very loud and starts talking about negative relationships and interactions from the past.

    Has any one ever experienced this? Sometimes it causes me to procrastinate.

    So the more I try to get something done, my inner critic gets louder.

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    chakra work

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 11:20 PM PDT

    i did a meditation and unblocked my 3 base chakras a minute or so afterwards i felt sick and vomitted is there an explanation

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    Symbol

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 10:20 PM PDT

    Anyone know what a dark green octagon that turned neon green could mean? It went pitch black after. My son was telling me he saw this. Just wondering if anyone has seen this before and/or know anything about it.

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    “Watching” isn’t being in the present moment, so isn’t “experiencing” a better meditation tactic?

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 09:59 PM PDT

    Watching is digesting what just happened, experiencing is being a part of what is currently happening.

    I suppose experiencing could be associated with a well-known term: bare attention. But bare attention still seems to be lagging a second behind, while experiencing is being immersed in whatever is transpiring.

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    Struggling

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 02:12 PM PDT

    So I started meditating approximately 20m a day 3-4 months ago again and lately I've been feeling like I've been regressing in my practice. 8/10 times I've been able to meditate for a minimum of 20 minutes, but I feel like I'm not getting anywhere. 20 minutes felt like nothing in the beginning but sitting down for just 5 minutes feels like a chore some days now. I've been using the Waking Up app and Culadasa's The Mind Illuminated to guide myself.

    Have anyone of you experienced this? I know the best thing to do is to acknowledge these feelings and just keep practicing, but I'm really struggling at the moment.

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    ?

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 05:51 PM PDT

    I was wondering is it possible and worth to always be in the present, or sometimes float in the past and future is a necessary thing? And a second question, is meditation about to accept everything and let things done by themself or is it more a train to change your mind as your will?

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    Does meditating while high improves strength in meditating while sober?

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 01:51 PM PDT

    I vaped yesterday night and listened to a few alan watts lectures. Afterwards, I lied down and meditated. My thoughts were all over the place, compared to when I'm sober. It was definitely harder to meditate. I compared it to lifting weights, where you increase the resistance in order to get stronger. Getting high increases the chance that thoughts would appear. My question is, would it help improve my ability to meditate in a sober state?

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    Have you ever experienced this while driving? awareness below ground feels like road is coming toward you?

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 09:01 PM PDT

    Sexual fantasies have a momentum all their own

    Posted: 12 Oct 2020 02:02 PM PDT

    Of all the possible thoughts/feelings to intrude on meditation, sexual ones seem to have a special force. They have a self-propagating nature. They're a movie you made, usually long ago, and it's hard to walk out of that movie. They're so physical. They accelerate downward on greased rails. They have great momentum.

    What is there to learn from them? Not much insight, other than the realization that your libido is rearing up, and probably should be "taken for a ride". Just a thought.

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