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    Meditation: Perfectionism mixed with Medidation is leading to self-sabotage


    Perfectionism mixed with Medidation is leading to self-sabotage

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 09:56 PM PDT

    So... i have perfectionist tendencies in all the areas of my life, and what impacts me the most about it is that perfectionism leads to self-sabotage AKA: Procastination, Having a really hard time trying to develop new good habits. As expected now i'm self sabotaging my meditation practice too, when i sit to practice i can't stop having thoughts of the type: "I am medidating correctly ?", "What if i'm just closing my eyes and breathing ?" and all the blablabla all know it it is but can't just shut off.

    Last month i meditated for about 66% days of the month, the other 33% ?, perfectionism didn't let me do it.

    So... my question for you all is... how to cope with this ?, how to stop or atleast reach peace with being a perfectionist and trying to meditate.

    what are your rules of thumb to follow when meditating ?, i think i just need to know what is meditation all about... so i can atleast convince me that i am meditating at last and not just closing my eyes and breathing.

    Some background: I want to practice meditate to try and improve my focus and attention span, as it takes me 20m to read 3 pages of a sinple novel book like harry potter.

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    Is it possible to get the same effects from meditation like you get from psychadelics?

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 08:28 AM PDT

    I don't know if this is the wrong place to ask but yea the title speaks for itself. I took mushrooms this summer for the first time and that's what really got me into meditation and spirituality. Is it possible?

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    My Thoughts on Depression and Enlightenment

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 05:36 AM PDT

    A month ago, I made this post in which I reflected on the confronting nature of what I perceived to be the inherent meaninglessness of my existence. Pretty standard stuff.

    For some time, I have been grappling with the ontological task of describing my experience, and I flit regularly between 'depressed' and 'mere failure to reconcile with the human condition'. The prescription for the latter is more dharma, more meditation, more introspection.

    I once read an article about a meditation master who was confronted with a woman who claimed to be enlightened, and she referred to the emptiness within herself as evidence of that fact; she felt entirely detached. I guess words are a poor medium for transference of the feeling of enlightenment, because as far as I'm concerned, that sounds quite like it. It turns out she was just depressed, and she mistook her emptiness for transcendence, which doesn't really seem that hard to do.

    I think about that distinction a lot. Until recently, I thought that my misery, sadness, and despair at the world—felt to varying extents, but manifesting mostly in apathetic indifference—was just a product of my inability to accept the world as it is; a function of my prosaic discontent. I thought that ultimately, my experience was attributable to a lack of insight rather than something clinical.

    Certainly, my apathy is buttressed by my intellectual commitment to things that are morally or practically good, so it has always felt less a matter of being unable to lift a finger to mitigate suffering, or exercise, and more that I feel no visceral connection to anything I do: no passion, no excitement, and no motivation beyond the determined, rational conviction that this is how to live life well.

    But now that I have confronted the possibility that my experience is something more than a simple failure to come to terms with reality, I wonder if perhaps I was gritting my teeth through years of misery that has a chemical, rather than spiritual, provenance. I have the capacity to persist with alacrity in the face of hardship, and for those who share that useful attribute, it seems quite easy to just plod along, especially if the experience is of a subtle and corrosive, rather than debilitating nature. Indeed, now we know that mental health difficulties don't even preclude Olympic-level sportspersonship; they could be hiding anywhere.

    I recently read an article entitled Prozac & Enlightened Mind, written for Tricycle magazine by Judith Hooper in 1999. In it, Hooper recounts the changing approach among Buddhist teachers to antidepressants, from abhorrence—drugs being just another barrier to recognition of one's true state—to acceptance. One nice quote struck me:

    "I felt as if I were drowning," Martin, Zen Path author, remembers. "It was next to impossible to meditate because of the restlessness—the terrible thoughts rolling through my mind. An antidepressant can bring your head above water so you can look for other ways to help yourself."

    After reading this, I became a little more willing to consider the possibility of alternatives to persistence, and also more willing to characterise my experience as something other than ignorance.

    The idea of medicating depression and depressive symptoms raises a lot of questions that people have been talking about for years, and I guess I don't really know too much about it all. For me, it sheds new light on the useful and revelatory proposition of selflessness, since I naturally wonder what parts of my 'self' drugs might change, and it becomes untenable to maintain the belief that there is any central, unchanging self that rides above small changes to habits and thought processes. You're happier and more confident but still the same person? How? I think this is part of what Peter Kramer talks about in Listening to Prozac.

    I wonder about why people like Alan Watts and Chögyam Trungpa drank so much despite their enlightenment, and I suppose that true indifference towards death means that it doesn't really matter what you do. Given this, the fact that depression is associated with aging, illness, and cancer (see here, or here00566-3), for example) seems of little importance, and the idea of medication alleviating depressive symptoms and reducing the risk of those comorbidities is also conceivably short-sighted. On the other hand, though, if the path to true contentment contains a stopover that helps make your life better, who would you be to deny that opportunity on the grounds that hardship builds character?

    I guess what I want to say is that maybe there's a meaningful difference between some kinds of painful detachment and the spiritually 'useful', existential crisis (the so-called 'dark night of the soul'), and I feel that I have benefited from subjecting my own experience to more considered scrutiny.

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    Buddhist books I recommend!

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 07:49 PM PDT

    What type of meditation is this?

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 06:39 PM PDT

    I have learned that there are different kinds of meditation. The one I want to ask about, is where your body is asleep, but your mind is not. I can often meditate and it feels as though I'm super relaxed and I'm about to enter sleep. But I never do. I feel asleep, but I am not asleep.

    Is there a name for this meditation? Perhaps it's just called "deep" meditation? Or maybe it's not that deep, I don't know. There is a lighter meditation I can do, that has a somewhat different effect on me. I was just hoping someone here could name this kind, as well as name the other kinds and perhaps say how to enter those states. Thank you!

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    I think I might be done practicing TM

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 08:51 PM PDT

    have a few meditation questions for someone that has truly mastered meditation (sorry if these are dumb questions)

    Posted: 07 Aug 2021 01:34 AM PDT

    1 - does it really matter how your posture is when you meditate?

    2 - what types of meditation bring enlightenment? How do you know you're enlightened

    3 - what am I supposed to think about when I meditate? I try and quiet my mind then what?

    4 - is a voice (that's not yours) supposed to talk back to you? Like say if you're mediating to solve a problem how do you receive the solution?

    5 - how do you meditate when you're spirit is not right? Meaning hopelessness /hate things like that

    Any other tips and info are welcomed

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    Meditation vs Deep work first thing in the morning?

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 02:11 PM PDT

    Hi, I've been meditating consistently first thing in the morning for about 3 months now. For me, it's about increasing my attention span, so I do mindfulness meditation (usually between 30 - 50 minutes). The thing is though, I feel the most productive upon waking up, but the later I do my meditation, the less effective it feels (my mind wanders more and it's harder to concentrate). If I do meditation first, I feel like I've lost a significant amount of momentum productivity-wise, and it's harder to sit down to a deep work session. Has anyone faced a similar struggle? What do you guys suggest?

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    Free / Downloadable meditations for sleep (similar to Headspace Sleepcasts)?

    Posted: 07 Aug 2021 12:15 AM PDT

    Hello! I'm a little new to meditation so apologies if there is something I am missing.

    I'm going on a long flight soon and I wanted to download some sleep meditation videos/mp3s to distract me (I often feel travel sick). I used to listen to the free Headspace sleepcasts (the full versions, not the 10-minute ones) and really enjoyed them, but I can't seem to find any full sleepcasts anymore.

    Does anyone know where I can find similar sleep meditations (preferably long) that I can download or otherwise listen to without an internet connection?

    Thank you!

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    Meditation causing insomnia

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 05:09 PM PDT

    I started meditating 1 week ago and before this I never had any sleep problems but ever since I started it always takes me a few hours to sleep and when I do I wake up early or in the middle of the night should I quit meditating?

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    Pain in the Butt (Sitting Issues)

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 06:10 AM PDT

    Im a 35 year old male. I do yoga a few times a week so I'm rather flexible. I can sit in any position comfortably for about 15 minutes, but after that everything from Burmese to Full Lotus one of my lega goes completely to sleep. Typically I feel this from my butt all the way down my leg.

    I'm sitting on a zafu filled with buckwheat hulls. I can do longer sits in Seiza no problem, but I would like to work towqrds a cross legged position since I have the flexibility.

    For the life of me though I cant figure out what to do with my legs falling asleep. I believe its likely starting at the butt and running down from there.

    Any ideas?

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    Looking for some ideas or advice specifically in regards to female hormones

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 02:52 PM PDT

    Anyone here experience PMDD or PMS and use meditation to help ease the symptoms? The mood, the confusion, the exhaustion, the depression, dealing with that all changing, among everything else that sometimes happens with the change in hormones, etc.? I feel like maybe concentrating or focusing on balance of oneself could help… but it feels so much more and so much more deeper than that. Someone that understands and has tips is what I was hoping for or if anyone knows of some good guided meditations, out there to try? I feel like this can be a really difficult experience for some of us and I feel like if mediation is used in the right way during these timeframe it could be very beneficial.

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    [IK]inetic - I Release You (Meditation)

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 05:47 PM PDT

    A few weeks ago I found myself feeling a little out of balance and was sliding into a low. After a few days of doing my daily meditations I noticed my solar plexus was blocked up a bit and I needed to release some stagnant energy. Every meditation I tried didn't seem to be working. Instead of getting frustrated I decided to create my own meditation track to listen to. Just getting the creative juices flowing helped ease the blockage and opened up a new avenue for me.

    I would like to share the meditation I created and I hope it helps anyone that is feeling stagnant or it just helps anyone in general.

    Hope everyone enjoys it and have a good weekend!

    [IK]

    IKinetic - I Release You

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    An experience I was not prepared for��‍♂️��‍♂️

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 04:54 AM PDT

    • I will try to explain this as good as possible, Still I don't know what happened exactly while my body went through this.

    So

    • My past that lead up to that day👇

    So since I was a child I had a very rough past, I've encountered many losses and I've done harm to my own body and others. To the point that Im a 19 years old boy leaving✈️ everything behind "friends" and family and moving to another country all alone to start a "new life". I thought to myself everything would be fine now when I moved and I would start to feel good.. But the I realized anywhere you go you will always run into problems no matter where you are in this world🌎 I experienced the meaning of friends(different types of friendships, homelessness, people don't love you they love their own image with you(if you get me). I was not feeling good at all and have always heard that meditation can make you feel good but I've never tried it and I thought I understand what it was but I didn't. I only understanded it from what I already knew. I had never experienced something else than the physical body, even when hallucinating on LSD💊 or shrooms🍄.

    So anyway I was feeling bad and I started to meditate. It was also this girl at my new work I got my eyes on. I got rejected which I'm glad for that it happened today. The reason why I got rejected was because she said I gave her too much attention. Yes I really did gave her too much attention, in a way I have never given anybody before. I literally even told 🗣her👩 that ""I have never felt in love❤️ this much and I don't even know why I'm feeling this way because we haven't even made out or anything. This was very strange 🤨 for me . I also could start to cry😭for no reason literally no reason and it was not because of her it was because of everything.

    THE MOMENT I WANTED TO TELL ABOUT👇

    So 2-3 weeks went by and it was one night that I turned on sacral chakra meditation when I was about to sleep💤. Remember I didn't even know what sacral chakra is, either did I never heard about of physical body or any other terms that I am mentioning. All this things terms and stuff I have learned about after this day. I was going to sleep💤 and I hade the sound frequency's next to my ear on my phone. I didn't even thinking about meditating. From nowhere my heart💚opened and became as big as my whole chest, I felt it physically it didn't hurt but it wasn't physically. My stomach felt felt like my whole abdomen, free and watery 💧 and waves 🌊 of energy was passing through my body head down to my feet's, heard people laughing and also saw a girl with a scary smile. I was in the subtle body if I'm right. From nowhere it was like a switch in my head 💆‍♂️ and I saw my body from third person laying there on my air mattress in the room(astral travel). I saw my body stressfully sit up and start to hyperventilate and look👀 around stressfully. When that happened I got scared and I got back into the subtle body. When I got back into the subtle body I felt loops of energy from outside of my body passing in through my body and at the same time my body was giving out loops of energy. FROM NOWHERE it was this VERY VERY INTENSE loop of energy that passed through my body and it was so intense that it made me almost jump out of my bed while at the same time I screamed ""WHOOOOOOOW"". When I was in a sitting position and got scared I came back to the physical body and the intense loop of energy flew in to the middle of my spine and it was gone, maybe still there😅.

    •AFTERMATH👇

    I learned to forgive my self and others, I learned to see the world more positive. My self esteem got high in a good way, full of joy. More choices of myself and my emotional bag that I didn't knew I even had since I was a kid got erased. I still remember everything but it's not a burden to me anymore. My whole personality changed forever in a good way etc.

    Yes so that was my story. Im turning 20 in 4 days. Can someone please tell my what happened.

    Share your thoughts💭 and ideas💡

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    Mental Narration In Meditation

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 01:09 PM PDT

    Hi there!

    I am very new to meditation and have a couple questions, both related to mental narration:

    1. In a standard breathing meditation where you need to focus on the breath, should i be thinking "breathe in, breathe out ..." with my mental narration, or should i be aiming to focus on the breathing without the mental narration?

    2. In a "hiking meditation" where the aim is to take in the surroundings using all your senses, should i be looking around the scene mental narrating " flowing river, trees blowing in the wind..." or should i be aiming to observe my surroundings without the mental narration?

    If the mental narration is supposed to be avoided, any tips on how to do this. I find that I struggle to know how to "focus on the breath" without this mental narration, and i find that when i make a concious effort to observe my surroundings I automatically start labelling what I hear and see. I know its possible though because If I see something suddenly, such as an interesting bird flying past, I will see it "before" any mental narration occurs.

    Hope this makes sense!

    Thanks!

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    One-Day Retreats

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 06:06 AM PDT

    I was reading an interview with Sam Harris the other day and he said that until he went to a retreat, his meditation practice was just him sitting around, thinking.

    I'm worried now that my efforts have been in vain and that I'm doing it wrong. I know there's no "wrong way" to do it, but I just feel like if Sam Harris can do it wrong, so can I.

    I want to do a one-day retreat. That seems achievable to me, something I can build on. But, I'm having a super hard time finding a central resource for retreats. I've found some, but not a robust online directory or anything.

    Those who go to retreats: what resource do you use? How do you find centers? I use Insight Timer but they don't have live events posted (to my knowledge).

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    Can anyone please explain this weird tingly sensation that I mainly get when meditating. Often now, I feel it at random times too.

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 06:51 AM PDT

    It proceeds from a tingling to a throbbing sensation too. I feel it more often on the days I meditate at random intervals.

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    Interesting Meditation Experience - Any Thoughts?

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 08:43 AM PDT

    I put on headspace for a 15 minute semi-unguided meditation from one of the pro courses and carried out the routine parts of the practice. Sitting, closing the eyes, acknowledging the surroundings etc. Eventually came to my breath and began training my focus onto it.

    The pre meditation commentary had put a focus on accepting resistance and learning to let go of this it so I took the advice and instead of trying to force myself to put my focus back on the breath whenever thoughts arose, I simply stopped trying and let my attention drift back to the breathing.

    After my 10 minutes I found myself falling deeper and deeper into the meditation, continuing to let go into the experience. It was a gradual shift but at one point I suddenly noticed that my mind had shifted from focussing on the breath and I was now just sitting in what I can assume was just consciousness. It was like a focus on almost nothing but the mind. I can't really describe it. At the same time I noticed in the darkness of having my eyes closed, that I was seeing outlines of two wings coming together over and over again. These were not clear visuals but consisted of an outline of wings created from the whole spectrum of colour.

    I was a bit taken aback and whilst I could feel my ego wanting to comment on this experience with thoughts and emotion, I continued to let go into the experience. My body was overcome by this energy that felt like a rapid vibration and it felt like my body was experiencing a slight euphoria and contentment.

    Sadly, the headspace guide then interjected with his ending for the meditation session and I gradually brought myself down from the experience. I'm still feeling some sort of after glow from this experience. My chest feels empty and light. Almost like a balloon that wants to rise upwards.

    Anyone experienced anything similar or have any thoughts or comments that could share with me? I would be very grateful :)

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    What would a meditation practice to be more disciplined in one's ambitions (career /school /competitions) look like?

    Posted: 06 Aug 2021 08:38 AM PDT

    I get easily distracted and would hope there's a practice that would help with that without quenching my main 'desire' to succeed.

    Can a Metta type of medication with a mantra like "may I not be tempted by temporary cravings" promise any results?

    Please provide links if necessary. Thanks.

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