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    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - March 30 2020

    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - March 30 2020


    Weekly Discussion - March 30 2020

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    This is a reoccuring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences.

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    Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our FAQ before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally.

    Discussion

    Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated.

    Also check out the monthly meditation challenge.

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    Just want to share a technique I developed for myself, helped me when I was still brand new

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 08:48 AM PDT

    So I've been meditating for 3 or 4 years now, I started originally to deal with a hyperactive, unfocused mind but I've found it to be so helpful for so many things since then. I have a little visual aid I use to help demystify a lot of what feels like mental gymnastics when you're just starting. I haven't read any meditation literature really, so im sure this is something that much smarter people have already put together in a better way and if that's the case please link me to it that would he awesome.

    Basically I imagine myself sitting in a river, facing downstream. And the most important part of this is that I can see downstream, the water flowing away from me, but I cannot look upstream. The river is my stream of consciousness, and it carries my thoughts through me. There is no controlling the river, there is no stopping it from flowing, the thoughts that are in the river will come no matter what, the most you can do is make sure you don't grab them as they pass. You can't look backwards to see what's coming, so don't try, just accept things as they come. And most importantly, if you're already having a thought, you can't look upstream to see how long it is, and you can't shuck it away early. The thought is what it is. The only thing you can "do" is see if you've grabbed hold of it, and if you have, let it go.

    This has been immensely helpful because it works for the two types of meditation I do. If I'm sitting to watch my breath, and become a more focused person, that I rest my mind on my body in the river. Always focus on the breath, and I use the mantra "send it downstream". The other kind of meditation I do is just watching the thoughts, I do this when im not sure where my head is at or what it's doing. In this case I watch the river. Try to take note of what's coming and going and how long certain thoughts are. And you can always look downstream to see them in context. My memory is pretty bad, but this visual aid makes it much easier.

    This was much longer than I intended it to be but I hope it made sense. Sending love and peace to everyone in this really chaotic time.

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    Meditation just saved my life.

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 11:22 PM PDT

    I'd like to start by saying I was never a spiritual person at all, and am still kinda skeptical at this point. I was one of those people who didn't know if god or an afterlife or anything was real or not and didn't really care. I started taking up meditation about 4 days ago when my mind became clouded with thoughts. The way I meditated was thinking of my thoughts as clouds or bubbles just floating away as I watched, and I would do this about 40-50 minutes a day (went off like the first video that comes up on youtube).

    Today was a really bad day for me and I just felt isolated and lonely and generally hateful towards everything (Quarantine blues). Not too long ago my mom died of cancer and me and my fiance broke it off. I moved back to my hometown after living in California while in the Marine Corps and living with her for about 6 years. The house I'm in right now is the first place I smoked DMT in and is also the place I lived before joining the Marine Corps. While I was tripping on DMT at the tender age of 18, I saw "the grid" as they called it and a formation of a girl. I couldn't see her face but I felt a presence of overwhelming love and couldn't help but feel she was an angel or my soulmate or something.

    So fast forward 8 years later (today) I couldn't get the thought of offing myself out of my head and shut off all the lights in my house and meditated hoping that the thought of being "nothing" and watching my thoughts float away would help. In my mind I basically sent an angry message to whatever higher power saying if I have any sort of reason to be here you'll show me her face, you will show me her fucking face. (I'm talking about DMT girl.) Well I came up with some bullshit picture in my mind of a girl who I knew wasn't really her and I just started sobbing uncontrollably saying that I didn't want to be here anymore.

    So I sat there again, palms in a cup shape in my lap sitting criss cross applesauce in the exact place I took that first hit of DMT. I told myself I'm not going to stop until I fucking see her face. I don't know how long I meditated all I know is that it was a long time. I kept having to tell myself to back away from my thoughts and become the atmosphere they were in, various times. Eventually the weirdest shit happened and I felt a pulling sensation on my head like a UFO was trying to suck me up or something.

    Like I said I was the most anti religious guy you'd know before this, but eventually that pulling feeling led to my arms coming up almost like I was being lifted. I probably looked like one of those people in those fake "spiritual awakening" videos or whatever. Anyways all of the sudden I felt like I was being hugged and I knew it was her. All the shit, all the negativity, all the hatred, just went away and I told her "I wanna meet you" she said "You have to wait silly" and let go. As I was falling I saw her face and shouted "whats your name?!" she shouted back "Alexia!"

    Man I couldn't stop crying and i'm crying right now just writing this. I was seriously so lost but now I feel as if I have some sort of hope. I don't know if she's in this life or an angel or just some bullshit I made up in my mind but that was the most powerful thing I've ever felt in my life. I don't know if visions like these just stem from great pain but whatever showed me it I can't thank enough. I just had to write this down while it was fresh in my brain. Thanks if you read this whole thing.

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    Check out this carefully curated calm and relaxing playlist on Spotify featuring some amazing Piano tunes by contemporary artists

    Posted: 31 Mar 2020 12:17 AM PDT

    In all honesty how is everyone actually doing during this time?

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 09:15 PM PDT

    I'm completely lost. I'm gonna be honest. I was planning on graduating university this semester and finding a job in IT. But with how everything is going as of right now the chances look slim. I'm still applying and doing my best but I have never had amazing luck. We shall see. My sleeping schedule is back to being bad, I can't go to the gym so my health is deteriorating and I'm not eating well. I went from meditating 5-6 a week to 0 and I miss it so much that I am typing this on my meditation cushion.

    But I just wanted to know how everyone in here is doing because a lot of my guidance and help came from this particular subreddit. I have realized that I'm not doing that well, which is step one and I'm gonna do my best to take action.

    Hope all is well. Stay safe!

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    Just learnt what letting go really means

    Posted: 31 Mar 2020 02:00 AM PDT

    I always thought of letting go to just keep in moving forward.

    To some extent that's true. But much more than that it means to be not afraid, to allow everything to happen and to give up that inner control freak.

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    Just had a realy great meditation session.

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 09:19 PM PDT

    I just feel really relaxed now. It felt like i was able to losen nodes in my soul full of anxiety and fear. I hadnt had this feeling of not being stressed out and full of fear and tense in a long long time. I think about 2 years. This was the first time i felt this relaxed, this calm ever due to meditation. Im doing this for 6 months now. I wasnt alway focused on my breath but a lot more than usual and when i wasnt i could observe how my focused changed and was able to go really deep into my thoughts, understand where they came from and what they caused. As someone with drug expiriences in the past this feels how i was able to study my mind on LSD just much clearer, better and more interesting. I never had this feeling of freeing myself from fear without drugs. Ever. This is beautyful. Even though im sure this wont hold on very long im enjoying it as long as i can. Wow.

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    A special Message from His Holiness the Dalai Lama on Coronavirus Pandemic

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 09:46 AM PDT

    I'm sharing this press release because it shows how a great meditation master, acknowledges the value of science, govt leadership and community cooperation. What affects one of us, can spread to all of us. This is true of the power of the meditative mind and broken mind.

    A special Message from His Holiness the Dalai Lama on Coronavirus Pandemic

    "Dear brothers and sisters,

    "I am writing these words in response to the repeated requests from many people around the world. Today, we are passing through an exceptionally difficult time due to the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic.

    "In addition to this, further problems confront humanity such as extreme climate change. I would like to take this opportunity to express my admiration and gratitude to governments across the world, including the Government of India, for the steps they are taking to meet these challenges.

    "Ancient Indian tradition describes the creation, abiding and destruction of worlds over time. Among the causes of such destruction are arms and disease, which seems to accord with what we are experiencing today. However, despite the enormous challenges we face, living beings, including humans, have shown a remarkable ability to survive.

    "No matter how difficult the situation may be, we should employ science and human ingenuity with determination and courage to overcome the problems that confront us. Faced with threats to our health and well-being, it is natural to feel anxiety and fear. Nevertheless, I take great solace in the following wise advice to examine the problems before us: 'If there is something to be done—do it, without any need to worry; if there's nothing to be done, worrying about it further will not help.

    "Everyone at present is doing their best to contain the spread of the coronavirus. I applaud the concerted efforts of nations to limit the threat. In particular, I appreciate the initiative India has taken with other SAARC countries to set up an emergency fund and an electronic platform to exchange information, knowledge and expertise to tackle the spread of Covid-19. This will serve as a model for dealing with such crises in future as well.

    "I understand that as a result of the necessary lockdowns across the world, many people are facing tremendous hardship due to a loss of livelihood. For those with no stable income life is a daily struggle for survival. I earnestly appeal to all concerned to do everything possible to care for the vulnerable members of our communities.

    "I offer special gratitude to the medical staff—doctors, nurses and other support personnel—who are working on the frontline to save lives at great personal risk. Their service is indeed compassion in action.

    "With heartfelt feelings of concern for my brothers and sisters around the world who are passing through these difficult times, I pray for an early end to this pandemic so that your peace and happiness may soon be restored.

    "With my prayers,"

    Dalai Lama

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    Cig and breathing

    Posted: 31 Mar 2020 02:27 AM PDT

    Hi guys ! I started a therapy 2 years ago because of frequently panic attacks, it drives me to meditation and yoga and helped me so much. I'm not the same person that I used to be 2 years ago and as I felt way much better and able to take care of myself in the way I always wanted it, I stopped the therapy. But here's the thing, there is ONE thing, always in my head, creating a duality inside of me : cigaret. Now that I'm practing yoga and meditation daily I know how important my breath is to me, and I consider my health but I didn't find the "thing" to quit, or at least not feel guilty everytime I smoke. I tried to quit but everytime I come back to it. Maybe it was not the right time for me, but I feel a urge inside. I can't "accept" this, and it cause me some kind of "pain" I don't want to live with. Are some of you in that situation ? Any tips ? (Sorry for my English, I'm French)

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    Breath and heart at bedtime

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 09:53 PM PDT

    It is easy and beneficial to listen to your breath and heart as you fall asleep, and to feel your body resting as you lay down.

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    [30-MAR-2020 Guided Meditation + Singing Bowl] Chakra Healing Evening Relaxation

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 09:03 PM PDT

    There is a combination of spiritual work done in this guided meditation, but it covers the basics of pranayama, self-healing through the etheric centers 'chakras' and building up the inner vision through visualization practices. But, most importatly it's an opportunity to heal, grow, and deeply relax during these chaotic times. Happening twice a day 8AM and 8PM. Hope this brings some peace to you! have a great night!

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    Massive online global meditation today! Please spread the word, we need to raise the vibration. Link in comments.

    Posted: 31 Mar 2020 12:32 AM PDT

    I think meditation is making me more bitter toward people, I need some help

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 08:34 AM PDT

    It has been years since I've first experimented with meditation, and I started to get a little more serious about it last fall (doing it every day, reading about that and so on).

    Since I increased my practice and my insight, I started noticing more and more how people are full of hate, how they treat bad others and themselves, how they cannot communicate. In short, how they throw chaos into this world, damaging everyone.

    And trust me, I do my best to listen, to understand and to be empathic, but I really can't stand the vision of people hurting each other for no reason except their lack of clarity.

    Often I struggle to help them unravel their problems, but sometimes it's just too much: I am no saint, nor a perfect being, and their hate just overwhelms me and I judge them for their attitude. I judge them for the damages they are doing, I judge them for making things worse.

    I clearly feel how all of this is so wrong, these feelings should not be seconded.I am very far from awakening, and for sure not humble enough. But I really need to know how you all cope with individuals that consistently push against peace and kindness, against everything that is amenable to live a fulfilling life.

    EDIT: Thank you to everyone for each of your thoughts. This community is great. I will carefully go through them again soon, and try to elaborate and reflect on that.

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    I struggle with visualisation. Any Tips?

    Posted: 31 Mar 2020 02:35 AM PDT

    So I am doing this visualisation meditation on Headspace where I've to imagine sunlight filling my body. Well I know the image isn't important but I can't feel much spacious during this exercise. I'm really good at breathe focus, and other techniques. But my visualisation sucks. Any tips?

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    is it still considered meditation if i only use it to fall asleep?

    Posted: 31 Mar 2020 02:33 AM PDT

    hi, i meditated for like 2 years every day 10 - 60 minutes in dedicated sessions however i felt underwhelmed with the results. so i stopped the sessions but since all the science papers say that meditation is so very good i didnt want to stop completely so i use meditation now when i want to take a nap with the goal to fall asleep, does that still count as meditation and will i get those long term grey brain matter if i keep doing this?

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    Has this happened during meditation to anyone else?

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 10:09 PM PDT

    A few nights ago I was meditating working on my third eye and when I first starting awakening I found out I am clairaudient. As I started to deeply go into the relax state and cleared my mind of any thoughts or fears I felt and heard someone on the left side next to my ear release this huge hot breath. I slowly opened my eyes to see if there was a precede next to me and all I saw was half of my pony tail being lifted up almost as if someone was moving it away from my ear to breath in it. It freaked me out so much it broke my meditation and I had to sleep with the lights on and under the covers. This morning I woke up and my left ear felt clogged as if there was something moving in it and then started hurting really bad. It feels a little better now but still feels like there is this energy attached to it??? Was it maybe me going into astral project or my vibration raising and not a presence??

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    I also took a break from technology... didn’t quite go as “planned”

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 07:51 PM PDT

    A few days ago, another sub member talked about taking a break by turning off their phone and tv for the day: https://www.reddit.com/r/Meditation/comments/fpwgcp/today_for_the_first_time_ever_im_going_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

    The day started off fine. I didn't really feel terribly bored or disconnected. I liked having the distance from social media, people, and tv. I just sat with myself and enjoyed relaxing with crosswords and puzzles. I even took a nap!

    But I didn't really feel like I accomplished anything. I didn't go in to this with much of a plan formulated because I wanted to leave the experience open to be what it could be rather than impose some end game result on it (thus the quotations in my title). I'm wondering if the complete lack of plan was too loosey-goosey because I came out of it feeling like I didn't really gain much except for a day of silence.

    I suppose this post is a bit of a ramble. I'm not really expecting advice here. But if anyone else has had productive or non-productive experiences with going no-tech, and wants to share their approaches and takeaways, I'm all ears!

    Also: posted from mobile, and newbie poster so I hope I linked the previous post inspiration correctly!

    Edit to add: I'm not deterred from doing this again. I just need to sit on my experience (or lack there of) and contemplate how to make it feel more productive next time. Hearing other's experiences might give me some inspiration, much like the original post I read did for me to even do this!

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    A Vision of Lord Krishna

    Posted: 31 Mar 2020 01:36 AM PDT

    Physiology/biochemistry of numbness during/after meditation.

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 05:48 PM PDT

    Dear all, this is my first post here, happy to be here.

    I've completed Vipassana course recently, trying to keep practicing. Before committing to a few thousands of hours of practice I would really like to know a bit more about possible detrimental effects of numbness.

    I found a few discussions of numbness during/after meditation (click, click [which has link to nerve picture of numbness]).

    However, I wanted to know more complete physiological picture of numbness.

    1. Aren't cells dying with the limited blood flow?
    2. What could be a science-based criterion of detrimental effects during long seats?

    Thank you.

    P.S. If you can give me a link on a peer-reviewed journal, that would be helpful.

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    I'm not a pro, but this is the way I do it.

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 08:54 PM PDT

    So I've done meditation for a couple of weeks now. And from my start I always led myself to meditate with NO thinking whatsoever. I know it's not that easy as a starter and I failed at that.But then I thought of something different. Instead of reading of how other people do it, why don't I do it the way it feels comfortable for me?I sit on the ground, cause it works best for me, I criss-cross my legs one under the other, I let my hands loose and let them drop between my thighs, I don't slouch THAT much but I also don't stand so upright with my back cause I feel uncomfortable like that. And for my thoughts, I always try to imagine myself somewhere on a hiiiiigh spot.Now I do this due to the fact that I am terrified of heights, like a phobia, real thing so in my own mind I take the whole fear of heights... as it represents all my fears, doubts, bad moments, sad moments, unhappy moments, angry moments etc.The spot I imagine doesn't always have to be the same image. Like for example, I recently imagined myself on a beautiful mountain, as my body just sat in that position near the edge to the point where I could feel the rocks dropping alllll the way down to their doom, but then I could imagine a beautiful temple maybe, as I sit on the highest balcony or open window, again at the edge. It all has to do with that uneasy feeling.Now talking all about this scary, frightening stuff about my phobia, I then imagine the wind and nearby water. You see, water and air are free elements... and remind me of what freedom means, freeing your body of all fears. Now I don't mean avoid your fears or try not to think about them or simply ignore them, no, I mean understand your fears, there is no shame admitting whose fault was it that you are afraid of something or someone. Next, with the help of the wind I understand that life is just a never-ending cycle, meaning yes these problems have happened or might happen, but I must understand behind those problems, the future remains. The water, helps me heal myself from all the times I've been hurt in my life, to better understand what I must do to not feel that again. Trust is a hard word, some people say it's easy to trust someone, but others have trust issues, both so different from each other yet both realistic, so the water helps me choose my decisions more wisely so I do not feel hurt in the future.

    I'm not saying do this technique cause it works 100% but for me it does. All that I ask is you leave a comment on how you do it so I can see other opinions. For me my way makes it so when I open my eyes I feel thankful for what I am and whom I am. Thank you for reading. :)

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    Any video games that do not have adverse effects on meditation

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 03:45 PM PDT

    I really like video games and I really like meditation. I have found that competitive games wind me up a lot and make my mindfulness practice much more difficult. However, I am wondering if games like animal crossing, which are noncompetitive and calming, could be harmless. Open to multiple views and thoughts on this topic :)

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    Can one be grateful for anything?

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 08:14 PM PDT

    I've been having difficulty feeling gratitude towards cold and soulless companies who's primary goal is to make money. Although they've allowed humans to cooperate together to build amazing things - the internet, airplanes, smartphones - I'm fixated on the harm the companies have caused and I start to question whether even these "amazing things" have been good for humanity.

    Which leads me to the question - can you be grateful towards anything? A horrible upbringing? A bloody historical event?

    Can I be grateful to the elites that organized the building of the pyramids with slaves? Or am I to be grateful for the slaves themselves?

    Is being grateful simply trying to focusing on the positive, no matter what it is?

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    Looking for friends to meditate with on insight timer

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 11:59 PM PDT

    420

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 11:34 PM PDT

    Has anyone gotten high then tried meditating?

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    For people that have had profound experiences with meditation, what techniques or methods do you use?

    Posted: 30 Mar 2020 06:47 AM PDT

    I have a morning seated practice for 15-20 minutes and I do a ten minute guided meditation right before sleep.

    During my seated practice, I count my out breathes up to ten and then I start over.

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