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    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - May 25 2020

    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - May 25 2020


    Weekly Discussion - May 25 2020

    Posted: 25 May 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    This is a reoccuring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences.

    Questions

    Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our FAQ before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally.

    Discussion

    Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated.

    Also check out the monthly meditation challenge.

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    Walking meditation is a game changer...

    Posted: 25 May 2020 12:55 PM PDT

    The goal of practice is not to be the best at sitting silently—it's about living a good life. For meditation to have it's maximum impact you have to bring the practice into everyday life somehow.

    The more you can practice mindfulness throughout your day, the better able you'll be able to interact with people, resolve difficult situations, sustain focused work, and focus on things that matter.

    This fact necessitates that you try and find moments of mindful clarity whenever possible.

    An excellent way to help facilitate the transition from on-the-cushion to everyday-life is to practice walking meditation whenever you can. This offers countless opportunities to wake up.

    A walking meditation is really simple: rather than keeping your breath as the meditation object, pick something relevant to walking. The two most salient options are:

    1. Your feet hitting the ground. Pay attention to when your left foot hits the ground, and the entire movement as you propel yourself forward with that foot, up until the point of it releasing contact from the ground. Repeat for right foot.
    2. Your visual field. If you stare at your visual field as it passes you by, it can provide small (but profound) moments of clarity. Try to look at the scene, not as a collection of objects, but rather just sense data. For example, if walking down the street, don't see a sidewalk, trees, and cars. Just see a bunch of color. —Now I know, easier said than done right? Well there are two ways to 'hack the system,' in a way. One, you can 'look for the looker' which is a more advanced meditation technique that I won't go into here, but when you do that you get very punctuated moments of clarity. This can be repeated again and again as you walk. The second way is to try and look at your visual field as if you were in a car, and rather than frame yourself as [in a car zooming past the environment] try and frame yourself as [in a stationary car watching the environment zoom past you]. This little shift in perception can offer little moments of clarity, which again, can be repeated over and over.

    These practices have made an enormous impact in my practice and my well-being. I'm much more adept to catch myself in pathological thinking since implementing this practice.

    A nice little side effect of this practice is that it has helped correct my posture immensely. I find that when I'm lost in thought I'm staring at the ground in front of me, without even realizing. Whereas when I'm mindfully walking I walk staring straight ahead. It puts me in a more assertive posture and I appear (and feel) much more confident—engaging with reality—rather than lost in my own fantasy land, detached from my surroundings.

    Hope this helps! It's helped me a lot and I just thought I would share. This isn't limited to people with two legs either. If you're in a wheelchair or some other assisted transport, the option 2 listed above will work for you as well.

    Throughout a day there are countless opportunities for you to practice mindful walking. They're a gift! Treasure them whenever you can.

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    I really need help. My ex girlfriend came into my life just to hurt me. I feel dumb, hateful, and hurt. All I want to do is to let go and forgive her. How do I go about this through meditation?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 08:30 AM PDT

    If you want to read the whole story, it's been posted on Relationship_Advice. Please. I just need to know how to let go of all this anger and hurt in my heart. I've been trying to think of thoughts of her, good and bad ones. For good ones, I try to let her go. For bad ones, I try to forgive her. What else can I do? Any advice and help would be greatly appreciated.

    EDIT I just want to thank everyone who has posted so far. Every piece of advice is incredibly welcome. Thank you all for helping me. It means a lot.

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    Imagine a website where regular countdowns enable visitors to meditate "together". Would you visit?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 09:35 PM PDT

    Visitors are met with a screen featuring a timer counting down to the next hour (UTC), a small circle, and a numerical counter. If you place your cursor in the circle, the counter increases by one.

    When the timer finishes, a meditation audio track (Tibetan bowls, meditative ambiance, maybe even a verbal guided meditation, etc), or even a video, begins. It lasts for (x) mins (15 mins?).

    The intent of the site is to facilitate spontaneous simultaneous meditation globally. Inspired by the work of http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

    The question is, would you personally use a site like this? Do you have any feedback for someone who might be interested in creating a site like this?

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    Is it just a phase?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 06:59 PM PDT

    I've been meditating regularly for 19 days, and I used to meditate regularly for a while, maybe a year or two ago. What I've noticed is that I'm able to get to where I feel lighter, the chronic, gnawing tension in my solar plexus goes away, and I'm able to smile easier. Unfortunately, my depression seems to stay put, I become even more quiet than I usually am, and I just sort of feel empty and numb.

    Is there some kind of reset phase that some people go through before they're able to feel joy again and open up to socializing with people?

    I've just felt partly disconnected with life for years and unable to freely connect with people like I see others do every day. My hope is that meditation and mindfulness can eventually remove the mental and emotional blocks that have been in my way for so long.

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    When I meditate I feel and see some kind of machine kind of draining my energy or something

    Posted: 26 May 2020 01:52 AM PDT

    What is this

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    I make original Meditation music.

    Posted: 26 May 2020 12:29 AM PDT

    Hey, I don't know if this is allowed, but I have recently started making original meditation music, just to get away from quarantine and relax for a bit. I will post the link, Please let me know what you think, and if you have any recommendations, cheers!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIQatv_n1uoRVBsiOW3Ayjw?sub_confirmation=1

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    Thoughts On Busy-ness

    Posted: 25 May 2020 11:35 PM PDT

    Busy-ness or being busy is more than what you think it is. Here are a few counterintuitive thoughts.

    Being busy all the time is like having a myopic view. It doesn't let us look far enough. We get so involved working that we forget to give our efforts a direction. Sometimes just putting out fires, not doing what actually drives progress.

    Bob Hawke put it the best, "Things which are the most important, never scream the loudest".

    We could be using it as an excuse. An excuse to avoid certain things. Cooking stories to support it.

    It can become a matter of pride. The state of being occupied, giving us a feeling of importance. Only fueling our egos.

    On the contrary, what it actually shows is that we have no control over our time, our priorities, or our life. We're probably micro-managing or not handling it well. What we might need is help. We must swallow the pride and go ask for help.

    If what we do is vital to us, then carrying on this way is doing a disservice to our purpose. The above is nothing but our obsession for struggle porn.

    Busy-ness can also be misleading. It can create the illusion of being productive. But often, productivity and work don't have a direct relation with it. We could merely be filling ourselves up with the non-essential.

    Lastly, we could be punishing ourselves being busy. Acting out of guilt, rather than rationality. But more on that later.

    Often whenever busy-ness attacks it in a combination of the above thoughts. Proving to be a more significant obstacle.

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    I’m struggling. Conflict at home due to bf’s live-in intern, combined with recent unintended OD due to doc error

    Posted: 25 May 2020 11:21 PM PDT

    I am desperate for guidance and advice on how to meditate through some recent and rough issues. My bf and I agreed that he needed an intern, but rather than pay (it's a trade) we would house him and feed him for a year. Their relationship is not romantic, but they have become close friends. I have told my bf i (31 y/o male) am struggling with this... Especially because this intern (18 y/o male) is, while incredibly smart, speaks from a place of authority on every subject as though he has the life experience of a 50 year old.

    Then, last week, after an eye surgery (minor) I was prescribed 6 times the level of controlled substance by my dr. I thought it was my eyes, bc I couldn't see, walk, talk... but still thought "I was fine". I sent emails, did business (I'm a lawyer..) , talked to people I don't remember, cancelled credit cards, gave financial companies my address and phone number from 20 years ago, callex my bf by my high school bc name... and have about 10 percent of my memories of these events.

    I have been on an apology tour for the last 4 days. I put my family, my bf especially, and even this kid, through a lot. And I went through hell. I thought I was Going to be like that forever. That it was my eyes. And that I wanted my mom to have my dr remove my eye and just give me glass eye to end my suffering and confusion. 5 days later my bf figured out it was the drugs. My dr wouldn't admit it was even after I showed up sobbing at his office 4 days into this. I am embarrassed. Everyone expects me to apologize, which I guess I should, as I expended all my social capital. But we all know it wasn't my fault... and I'm in so much pain emotionally about what I went through... and now, seeing what I have done without realizing it or remembering it. I have no one to really comfort me ... which is understandable I suppose... I feel so much guilt, but .. really really broken, sad, and unable to self-heal. I would love suggestions or insight into how to meditate my way back... if you got to this point, thank you for reading. It's the first time I have been able to verbally speak about the pain I personally am experiencing. Thank you

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    360 diaphragm breathing

    Posted: 26 May 2020 02:14 AM PDT

    I have been trying 360 breathing at various times over the last years but I keep having some questions. First question: is it normal that the belly expands more than the back and the sides? I always think I must be doing it wrong because there seems tobe more expansion in the belly area than the others. Secondly, there seem to be multiple ways to breathe from the belly and I don't know which one is correct. First one: I feel something moving downwards. Second one: I feel something upwards. Third one: neither, nothing moves up or down. In all 3 cases the 'peak' expansion happens slightly above my belly button. What is the correct way out of these 3? And what happens if I do it in the other incorrect ways? Or are none of them incorrect?

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    Fire kasina books/guides

    Posted: 26 May 2020 01:58 AM PDT

    Can anyone recommend any books/online sources/videos that give details on how to practice fire kasina?

    Thanks

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    Restless energy wave while meditating

    Posted: 26 May 2020 01:57 AM PDT

    Hi all, first post.

    Quick background - I've been meditating on and off for several years now, but making a concerted effort recently to get back into the practice, and work out fairly regularly. I'm currently not on any medications, either.

    Tonight, while doing a meditation exercise (specifically geared towards the twin flame phenomenon, if that'll help anyone lol), I got the weirdest sensation in my legs, and only my lower legs. It was a huge, restless energy wave rolling over my legs up to my thighs but mostly in my calves. I wound up clenching my muscles so tight I almost gave myself a leg cramp. It was uncomfortable, but also weirdly euphoric, but still really uncomfortable.

    No, I don't have restless legs syndrome, by the way. Oh! I was meditating while lying down on my bed, if that has anything to do with it. But I've meditated this way for some time before, and never had anything like that happen to me.

    Thoughts, opinions, wanna tell me I'm just doing something wrong? Thanks! Have a lovely day!

    Edit: I should add I don't experience thoughts racing or thought restlessness or physical restlessness. This wasn't me being fidgety. This was a 'if I don't move now I'm going to be in pain' sort of sensation. I also did breathing exercises before meditating, and went on a walk beforehand as well.

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    Meditation Game

    Posted: 26 May 2020 01:46 AM PDT

    Hi Not trying to promote this app at all (and by the way is feee). Just tried it for 30min this morning and I feel so relaxed Give it a try...

    https://apps.apple.com/pt/app/meditation-game/id1155712068?l=en

    I believe an android version is available but I don't have the link just do a quick search in the google App Store

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    Subreddit idea

    Posted: 25 May 2020 09:16 AM PDT

    Hey guys! I was just thinking: wouldn't it be nice to have a subreddit where a bot is posting a reminder to be present every X days? As a result, scrolling in the main Reddit view will give you a reminder to stay present while scrolling.

    I have no idea to set this up, so it's just an idea.

    Have a good day!

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    Stay connected to the environment around you. Recognize the urge to escape into some inner dream land.

    Posted: 25 May 2020 09:23 PM PDT

    Once we truly internalize the idea that the present moment is all that really exists, life gets really really exciting regardless of circumstances.

    Please try to understand that every moment is just the information our minds perceives from our senses. So, calmer the mind, less distorted is this information, better the perception.

    I'd like to thank all the material available here on this subreddit. It changed my life gradually but now I suddenly feel like this was an overnight change :)

    Enjoy and have fun with your lives.

    Good luck!

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    Better to work up to fewer longer meditations or do short meditations more often?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 06:40 AM PDT

    Subject says all. What's best for dealing with anxiety and other issues? I'm assuming longer meditations a couple times a day, but want to know what you all had success with?

    Thank you.

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    Do yoga and vipassana describe the same final experience?

    Posted: 26 May 2020 12:29 AM PDT

    I'm not sure this is the right sub, but I can't think of any other.

    The goal of yoga as far as I I know is samadhi. AFAIK it's a state where the mind is completely shut off, including sense perceptions and thoughts and even time and space. However, I'm not sure what the end goal of buddhist meditation is, because there are so many schools and varieties of Buddhism. But in vipassana, the goal is 'insight'. Does this 'insight' shut down the mind?

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    Can someone explain to me what meditation really is, so that one can know when one is not meditating?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 10:32 AM PDT

    Greetings. I've tried several meditations. Mantra meditation, mindfulness and do-nothing, but I've never really found the commonality. Is it to always be aware, or is it the clearing of the mind? Is it being in the now? When do I stop meditating?

    Cheers!

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    How do you guys feel about guided meditation for a beginner?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 04:38 PM PDT

    I feel like guided meditation is a good way to get into it but idk if hearing a voice and following instruction is counterproductive.

    Also, I enjoy the calming effect meditation has for me but other than that I'm not really sure what I want to get out of meditation. I have heard of so many benefits but there is also seemingly unending different kinds of meditation and I don't know what kind to practice for me.

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    Free Full Day Meditation Retreat on Sympathetic Joy with guided Yoga - This Saturday 30th of May

    Posted: 25 May 2020 07:43 PM PDT

    Free Full Day Meditation Retreat on Sympathetic with guided Yoga - This Saturday 30th of May

    The retreat will focus on the practice Mudita meditation. Mudita is an ancient Buddhist meditation which cultivates Joy.
    Moreover, joy, and delight are one of the five aspects of secure attachment conditioning. So, this retreat's purpose to facilitate the participant in doing a "body of work" on repairing the fourth aspect of secure attachment conditioning (expressed delight). We will use Muditat meditation as the means.
    Date: Saturday May 30th 2020
    Time:
    • USA:
    ◦ EDT: 9:00 am to 7:30 pm
    ◦ CDT: 8am to 6:30 pm
    ◦ MDT: 7am to 5:30 pm
    ◦ PDT: 6am to 4:30 pm
    • London: 2pm to 00:30 am
    • Paris: 3pm to 1:30 am
    • Teacher: Cedric Reeves
    • Cost: Free
    • Partial attendance is fine – Come and go as you like.
    Sing up and more details at:

    https://www.cedricreeves.com/onlinecourses/one-day-mudita-joy-online-retreat/

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    How do I let go of wanting to impose my judgement on others?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 11:25 AM PDT

    So I've been feeling this way all my life. I've heard and seen evil people do evil things. Yet justice is never served.

    I want to cause pain to those that cause others pain. But only evil people. I've been meditating a while now and I've come to the conclusion that I simply must obtain godly power and kill the millions, even billions of evil people. Let them know how it feels.

    However, this is the path of war. I don't want anyone innocent to get hurt. So I look to the path of peace.

    But judgement is subjective. So it would be a case-by-case basis. I am not a god even though my ego wants me to believe that I am all powerful and mighty. Maybe I am a god, but not in that way.

    I want world peace and going the way Dexter Morgan did in Dexter intrigues me because I want to be the hero and stop the evil.

    But killing is wrong, isn't it?

    Maybe not in self-defense. Maybe it just is.

    Do I observe these evil people doing evil things and just stand idly by doing nothing? There mist be something I can do to help them.

    As the saying goes, we are all one. So this pain and suffering I want to inflict on evil people is the same I want to inflict on myself.

    What do I do? I can't simply stop 3 billion evil people (more or less) from doing evil acts.

    Yet so many humans suffer and I CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. It pisses me off.

    I just want to help. But maybe without violence. A peaceful path.

    Can meditation bring me to the state of the buddha where anyone I meet will be in awe of my presence? Not necessarily as a god but as a peacekeeper like the buddha.

    Killing is wrong and I don't want to do that. Isn't there some other way?

    I've been meditating for an answer but I've yet to find one. Maybe spreading the world of mindfulness meditation to anyone I possibly can?

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    How is transcending duality not a cognitive lobotomy?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 11:16 PM PDT

    This is insanity.

    https://youtu.be/5Oc7qF_msMw

    The Universe has the Law of Polarity.

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    Is Visualization contradictory to meditation?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 07:21 PM PDT

    I read, the purpose of meditation is to shutdown the mind (Zero thoughts). But when you Visualize (Example: Chakra (Indian), Death (Tibetan), we actively engage in thinking/thoughts, correct? Is Visualization contradictory to meditation principle? Thanks

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    Bright flashes while meditating

    Posted: 25 May 2020 10:47 PM PDT

    I have recently started meditating and see bright flashes while my eyes are closed. Is this normal and how does one get past this distraction?

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    Many mindfulness meditation instructions ask to either bring you attention to the nostrils or the abdomen. How many of you place your attention at your abdomen ? Is it common for most people's belly to rise and fall ?

    Posted: 25 May 2020 10:24 PM PDT

    So this is something that stuck out to me about many mindfulness meditation instructions. Many will ask you to bring your attention to the sensations of your nostrils or abdomen. The more I started seeing "abdomen" in instructions the more I wondered if that's how most people breath. The only time my belly naturally rises and falls is when I'm laying flat on my back. But when sitting to meditate I don't feel this happening.

    What could I do about this ? Is it bad for my body not have a rise and fall of the belly during a seated position?

    Note: I've been trying deep breathing exercises but it seems more like I'm conciously pushing my stomach out. This is the same when I meditate , when I meditate I just end up push my stomach out to notice the "abdomen" while I breath.

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