Meditation: Weekly Discussion - October 19 2020 |
- Weekly Discussion - October 19 2020
- Im afraid that if I ignore negative thoughts and concentrate on the moment that these thoughts will be supressed and will come back stronger.
- You can’t chase happiness, you must find it within yourself
- Is there free will?
- Meditation works.
- Paradox of feeling like you've been put in the driver's seat of your mind when coming out of a longer meditation session
- The Mind is a Rascal… It makes me Think. In Fear and Worry, it makes me Sink
- At my wit's end. Meditation makes me more stressed rather than less. Could use some help
- Do you get electric-shock sensations while meditating?
- Every time I try to meditate I get the urge to swallow
- Is skipping meditation on weekends a major loss?
- MEDITATION IS KEY
- Music
- Rocking back and forth
- Heard the GSM buzz in my mind
- Can meditation be practical for someone with an intellectual disability?
- Guitar meditation
- How to exhale properly??
- Meditate for the 1st fime
- Beginner meditator: Anyone else uses their thoughts as their meditation object?
- Do unmindfull activities destroy the good mediation is doing?
- Staying awake for days?
- Concerned about whole body vibrations/muscle twitching while meditating
- Tried to meditate using a youtube video, fell asleep woke up refreshed and checked the video only 4 mins in...
| Weekly Discussion - October 19 2020 Posted: 19 Oct 2020 08:09 AM PDT This is a reoccuring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences. Questions Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our FAQ before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally. Discussion Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated. Also check out the monthly meditation challenge. [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 12:19 PM PDT Is my worry legit. I experienced less suffering today by focusing on the moment and shut the overthinker mind. [link] [comments] |
| You can’t chase happiness, you must find it within yourself Posted: 19 Oct 2020 01:38 PM PDT |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 07:40 PM PDT I'm trying to wrap my head around this topic that often pops up when I listen to Sam Harris or Allan watts. Please correct me if I'm not understanding it as they intent. I often hear to he teachers talk about how we have no free will. Our thoughts just appear in consciousness , much like our breath appears. Whether we pay attention to our breath or not , it will still happen. For example with breath: Whether I'm conscious or not of it, my breath will continue without my efforts. But I disagree because: When I pay attention, I can for instance, take a deeper breath, forcefully, by choice. I do have choice in the matter. It makes more sense to me that there is a combination of free will and determinism. I can decide to make a chage, but only when I focus on it. [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 11:32 PM PDT My journey to meditation has been a while; though I have listened to many of Buddha's teachings and the philosophy embraced sits well with me. I then read the book 'Limitless' by Jim Kwik, Then some others by Dr Joe Dispenza, I am on some pretty heavy medication for anxiety and depression. Since I have started meditating and thinking more in the present and not in the past or future by reshaping my brain during these meditations. I have been able to cut out one night night time medication completely with almost no withdrawals and am on the way to cut out my other anxiety medication which I have already reduced by 5mg. This is in no way a recommendation other than what meditation has done for me and when you finally reach that time in your life for change meditation is one way to assist. You should seek medical assistance before dropping any medications. Soon I hope to be off the second lot and then will see about the final lot by working with my Phsych. Heres to Meditation and Mindfulness! With each day brings a piece of healing. [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 05:57 PM PDT I am a very much a beginner so for me a long session is 30-60 mins. Despite having just spent that last 30+ minutes being bombarded with thoughts and images and sounds, etc. that I have no control in appearing in my mind. When I finish a session the world feels like the details got turned up. Its almost like that beginning of Halo where you are calibrating the control and noticing every up and down, left and right, and the "new" graphics. It fades away but is so odd that having spent that time noticing all the sensations I am not in control of, and then suddenly feel like I am now really there for the first time. Less like I am on autopilot. Is this a goal or common experience of meditation? Thanks. [link] [comments] |
| The Mind is a Rascal… It makes me Think. In Fear and Worry, it makes me Sink Posted: 19 Oct 2020 10:44 PM PDT We think our mind is very important. We think it is the king; it is everything. But the reality is exactly the opposite. The mind is a rascal. It bombards us with thoughts. It thinks up to 50 thoughts a minute. This can be up to 50,000 thoughts a day. It is enough for us to sink into an ocean of thoughts. Therefore, we must realize this truth by using the intellect. Most people consider the intellect to be a part of the mind. It is not! The mind produces thoughts. The intellect discriminates, discerns and helps us choose what is right. When the mind causes fear and worry, it is the intellect that must realize that F E A R is only False Expectations Appearing Real. We must learn to control the mind through the intellect. [link] [comments] |
| At my wit's end. Meditation makes me more stressed rather than less. Could use some help Posted: 19 Oct 2020 04:41 PM PDT Hi everyone. I have a question about meditation which has been burning a hole in my brain for a while and I need to ask someone because I can't resolve it on my own. I know meditation is great and has helped so many people but I just can't seem to get it to work. I think I have a good idea of how it's supposed to work and how it's supposed to feel - I used to be able to achieve a state similar to this while doing physical training - but I'm not able to do that right now and I'm not sure how to get it back again. I'd really appreciate some help with this. When I try and meditate it generally starts off well. There's a bit of discomfort and fidgeting but I normally settle in pretty quickly. But this is temporary and becomes harder over time despite my best efforts, and eventually actually leaves me feeling a lot more stressed than when I started. I can't see how the goal of meditation could be for stress to be increased. The problem is this. I like being able to think and analyse things. But I also know that the way I think and analyse can create undue attachment - I often stop to think about why I'm thinking something rather than letting it flow. But... Thinking and analysing is a really important part of who I am. I don't want to get rid of it - it's given me some great things! I know people say "meditation isn't about stopping thinking" but I just can't reconcile these two ideas, especially because the way I think often leads me down the path of being attached to my thoughts. It feels a bit like talking to a patronizing psychiatrist, to be quite honest. The part of me that wants to analyse things will say "okay, this is important, we need to take a look at this before we forget!" And then I (as in the part that wants to meditate) say "okay, that's nice. I'm going to acknowledge you and then let go." But then it says, "Why do you want to let me go? I'm important!" I want to be understanding and accepting of the thoughts but trying to do that just makes it worse. It's as if I'm being understanding on a superficial level but ultimately not really being understanding, because if I was, I would actually care about what the other parts of me want to say instead of just trying to be zen. So obviously the part of me that wants to analyse things is going to have something to say about this - it's still important to me, and trying to control it in this way feels like I'm trying to turn it off, no matter how much I tell myself that I'm not trying to do that - the actions speak louder than the words. It's very frustrating because I feel like observing my thoughts should bring some kind of distance to them, but it does the opposite, and I get more stressed! And I know I'm not supposed to try to do it. But if I don't try to do anything then... I just go back to my usual thought patterns. Which aren't meditating. In short, how do I reconcile a meditative mindset with one in which I can still analyse things? How can I appreciate that part of me more while still keeping it in perspective so that I don't get overly attached to it? Would really appreciate any help with this. [link] [comments] |
| Do you get electric-shock sensations while meditating? Posted: 19 Oct 2020 12:54 PM PDT I'm a beginner, meditated on-and-off for a few years occasionally, but seriously started to try and make it into a habit recently now. At least 5-10 mins a day, 20-30 mins max. I've noticed that when I get deeper into meditation, that is after the itchiness starts and then after the itch passes I get into that deeper state. I often use a timer. This happened twice so far, first time was a few days ago, it only happens for a few seconds when the timer sounds interrupts my mediation state. Its pretty minor, what happens is that I get a sensation that is like an electric-shock and it runs down my arms and legs, its like being startled but not quite because I don't feel startled, it feels more like a lower level of being startled but instead of my muscles moving in reflex it only sends those electric shocks. Do you get this? Is this normal? Do you know what causes this minor sensation? Not worried or anything, just quite curious because I never felt it before. [link] [comments] |
| Every time I try to meditate I get the urge to swallow Posted: 19 Oct 2020 06:43 PM PDT I'm new to meditation and every time I try to meditate I get reminded to swallow. It's annoying and takes away my focus on my breathing cuz I feel like swallowing every second. How do I deal with this? [link] [comments] |
| Is skipping meditation on weekends a major loss? Posted: 19 Oct 2020 10:06 PM PDT Hi all, I've read several meditation books, but only in the last month have I finally began consistently integrating the practice of formal mindfulness meditation into my life. Today is the first day I've done an hour! Woohoo! Currently it seems like 1 hr a day Monday-Friday is realistic and achievable for me. Weekends for me are usually more about sleeping in late and then partying. Are there some things to consider before deciding to meditate only 5 out of every 7 days? Thanks! [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 20 Oct 2020 01:47 AM PDT HEY THERE, MEDITATION IS KEY! I DO IT EVERYDAY. I ALSO PRODUCE THE MUSIC MYSELF, CHECK ME OUT ON YOUTUBE: RELIEF SYSTEM, SEE YOU THERE! [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 20 Oct 2020 01:40 AM PDT Like, I got the most random music stuck I'm my head after 5 mins... It is anything from video game music to what was on the radio an hour ago, and it distracts me as it leads to me thinking about correlating things. (E.g if I hear Megalovania I start thinking about Undertale ect...) [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 09:01 PM PDT Just finished meditating and for the past week now, once I'm a couple minutes into my meditation, my body involuntarily sways forwards and backwards slightly. Is that something to be concerned about? (Never the case when I'm normally sitting) [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 05:44 PM PDT I already have out of body experiences, but I haven't meditated much. I listened to The Mind Illuminated last week, and now I plan to try and meditate daily for at least an hour. My first time tonight, I meditated for 45 minutes sitting up, which gave me a slight body buzz, but at the 45 minute mark, I laid down to try and astral project, and after ten minutes, I heard the GSM Buzz in my mind as I started to enter the out of body state. I tried enhancing it, but it didn't go anywhere. Just wanted to share. [link] [comments] |
| Can meditation be practical for someone with an intellectual disability? Posted: 19 Oct 2020 01:41 PM PDT |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 01:21 PM PDT Like lots of people, over the course of the pandemic, I've revisited old hobbies. One thing I've gotten back into is playing guitar. I used to play a ton back when I was a teenager, working my way through all the classical grades, but stopped after going to uni and in the subsequent years. It's been really fun to pick back up, and try playing all the old sheet music I could find. Another thing I've tried to do more of this year is meditate. At the start of the year I was using Headspace pretty religiously, but I now just sit with a timer app for seven minutes each day. If you've done any meditation at all, you already know that the goal isn't to actively clear all the thoughts from your mind and think about nothing. Instead, it's just about sitting and watching thoughts go by. That's why breath control is so important — it gives you something to focus on, instead of getting caught up in a thought and following it down its rabbit hole. This is also why audiological forms of meditation are so powerful: Vedic chanting and kirtan from Hindu and Eastern traditions; Compline services and Taizé chants from different Christian traiditons; and I'm sure many others I've not heard of. A few weeeks ago, while sitting on the floor in my room with my guitar, in the spot where I usually sit to meditate, I found a really pleasing simple series of notes to play, which alternated between two chords, that could be played in time with my breathing. It's complex enough that I can't tune out and do it without thinking (like, say, strumming might be) — but simple enough that my fingers can play it without my mind having to be fully engaged, without having to consciously think through finger positions and timings and shifts. When playing this passage, closing my eyes, and focussing on my breathing, I can reach a meditative state a lot quicker than just by sitting in silence. (Most days when I meditate, I don't hit that state. On a good day, I might hit that point seven minutes into a ten minute meditation. With guitar meditation, if I'm in the right mindset, it's almost immediate.) With this form of meditation, there's no space for other thoughts to butt in. If thoughts do interrupt, your fingers jolt and stop playing and the sound reaches your ear and you instantly hear that it's happened — leading you to quickly adjust back into the flow, so that you're still playing the notes in time and going back to focussing on your breathing and thinking nothing at all. If you're a guitar player, here's the passage if you want to try it: If you're not a guitar player, I imagine this would work with a near infinite amount of medium-complex repetitive physical tasks. The task can't be simple enough that you'd zone out, but can't be complex or new each time so that you can't let your mind relax into that meditative state. I haven't read anything about this type of guitar meditation before. Searching for it online only gives me endless results for chill guitar music to relax/fall asleep too. But I've read a lot about the flow state, i.e. getting in the zone, and being fully immersed in a sense of energised focus. I'm not sure if that's what this is — but it feels as close to that as I've ever been. [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 10:54 PM PDT Everywhere I look suggests that your exhale should be a few counts longer than your inhale. Doing this is supposed to help the body enter a state of relaxation. But I find it baffling that I can't exhale for more than a second or two. I'm able to inhale for prolonged periods, maybe up to 10 seconds or so. I can see and feel my belly expand, even to the point of tautness. But regardless of the inhale, the exhale is always brief like squeezing an untied balloon. The closest I get to a long exhale is actively blowing out until my lungs are empty. And even then I can only do so through my mouth. Exhaling through the nose leaves the muscles in my throat and nostrils feeling shaky. Has anyone come across this before? [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 04:41 PM PDT I meditated for the 1st time and i was overwhelmed i am an over thinker so at 1st i thought i was never gonna get in the meditation state but i think i manged to do it for a few seconds until i popped out of it cause it was too overwhelming, in the second i think i got in the meditation state the blackness i see when i close eyes suddenly surrounded me like i was just in a plain of darkness and my mind felt a bit fuzzy this only lasted a few seconds. I have no idea but is that the meditations state ? [link] [comments] |
| Beginner meditator: Anyone else uses their thoughts as their meditation object? Posted: 19 Oct 2020 09:44 AM PDT A few days ago, I decided to have my thoughts as my meditation object. At first, it sounded like it defeated the purpose of meditation and mindfulness in general. But it was an incredible experience, to say the least. In the beginning, there were absolutely no thoughts that rose. Then I thought to myself, 'wow, was this the key to meditation'? And there it came, through the backdoor. Next thing you know, I'm thinking about all the projects I'm currently working on, and all the fears and anxieties that are associated with these thoughts. I reminded myself that this was the intention of this session, so I just listened, and hoped that more of these thoughts that associate with certain feelings rises some more. The more I focused on these thoughts, and the sensation that I get from those thoughts, the more I felt relaxed. I felt 'free'. It was hard to describe. My body felt like it drank a cup of coffee or green tea. These thoughts would vanish, and I was on to the next one. Did the same process, felt even lighter, and it would vanish. I did something else in this session that seemed counterintuitive. I started IMAGINING myself in situations where I know I would feel some sort of negative feeling. I just immersed myself into that feeling. Really focused all my attention towards it, and again, I felt lighter. Whether that feeling was anger, jealousy, or fear, it didn't really matter how I felt about it. In the end, I just felt amazing. In some ways, it motivated me to jump towards pain, to acknowledge and focus that feeling of pain. I just wanted to completely understand that feeling. Any thoughts about this? [link] [comments] |
| Do unmindfull activities destroy the good mediation is doing? Posted: 19 Oct 2020 11:37 AM PDT For example when i watch porn and slave away at my lust and iam not here at all and not present...will that reverse the effects of my 15 Minutes daily meditation? Thanks in advance best community ever!! (There a typo in the title *Meditation ) [link] [comments] |
| Posted: 19 Oct 2020 08:42 PM PDT Hey guys, I was wondering if there's any spiritual culture in the world that involves staying awake because I always hear many things about how meditation and rest and digging DEEP into your unconscious was the way to be spiritual if you were going to do it. But then I started thinking about the opposite because I started thinking about Native American dream journeys and realized I did not know much about those; basically this makes me have ideas of an already existing technique somewhere, but I wouldn't know where to find something like that. I could imagine Sadhus in India not sleeping to achieve some sort of divine consciousness too. Does anybody know anything about this? Some people fast, isolate themselves, etc. What about a sleep fast? And does anyone have any insight on Native American dream journeys because Google did not bring much up? [link] [comments] |
| Concerned about whole body vibrations/muscle twitching while meditating Posted: 19 Oct 2020 04:19 PM PDT Hello everyone, I'm new to meditation and last night was the second time I've done it. The first time was 2 weeks ago, I put a 15min. video and it was a very interesting experience, I felt like I was leaving my physical body and that everything around me was just not there. When I opened my eyes it felt like I came back to my body and I was so peaceful and light. Last night I decided to do it again with a 60min. guided meditation video and I smoked a little weed. In the beginning it was similar to the first time, but with the difference that I didn't feel I was leaving my body but that everything physical was disappearing, including myself and all physical sensations, and felt like I was floating and I was just one with the "space" around me. After a little while, I began to feel waves of energy throughout my body starting from my feet, and they were getting very intense until suddenly I felt a change that I cannot explain and I began to see colors, shifting shapes, lights, and my heart was pounding so fast and crazy that I worried for a moment but I tried to just let it be, at the same time all my muscles were twitching randomly I don't know for how long because I lost track of time, until I felt another shift and now the body vibrations were like synchronized with the muscle twitching, starting now from my head down to my toes like waves, I felt my brows twitch, my neck, my fingers and toes, my abdomen, everything. I was so intrigued when I opened my eyes that I was researching about my experience and I read some people say that when stuff like that happens, you should be guided by someone who knows about it because I can hurt your chakra alignment but I don't know what that means. If anyone here can guide me on this, I would really really appreciate it. [link] [comments] |
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