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    Meditation: Weekly Discussion February 22, 2021

    Meditation: Weekly Discussion February 22, 2021


    Weekly Discussion February 22, 2021

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 04:00 AM PST

    This is a reoccurring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences.

    Questions

    Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Meditation/wiki/faq) before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally.

    Discussion

    Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated.

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    Wim hof breathing + CBD + meditation is helping me overcome panic attacks, OCD, and quit drugs.

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 12:37 AM PST

    The beginning of this year was a difficult time for me, for context I had taken several large doses of lsd in the span of a few months prior, and seemed to have a good time each time. Early this year though I decided to smoke a fat joint while under stress, and that's when my panic induced hallucination happened. I felt like I couldn't move, I had disturbing thoughts on loop, and I had some intense visual snow that became worse until my entire field of vision became geometric color-shifting fractals. I completely dissociated from my body and I felt a brief but infinitely intense feeling of paranoia that seemed to last a lifetime. Truly the most frightening thing that ever happened to me.

    I've never been a spiritual person, and I had no respect for the mind-altering substances I was abusing. I developed an anxiety order as a result of this, and I thought I was losing my mind. It felt like was staring into an abyss of psychosis and I didn't sleep for entire days whenever these intrusive thoughts entered my mind or my visual snow flared up. CBD seemed to be the only thing helping me through it.

    That's when I discovered Wim Hof breathing technique, and after a few days of meditation and practice I was able to just let it all go. I realized that I feared my own subconscious and higher states of mind that I achieved through drug use. I'm beginning to accept and control it through meditation so that I don't fear it anymore. By controlling my anxiety I can control my thoughts, I'm no longer fixated on losing my mind and I finally feel at peace. Every session feels like a fog lifting from my mind.

    It is amazing what the mind is capable of and how little we know about it. I am excited to practice transcending into higher states of mind through meditation when I feel ready to do so and continue working on myself. One symptom of my OCD I've had my entire life is dermatophagia, I compulsively eat skin off my hands and feet (gross, I know). After a few weeks of meditation I find myself much more focused and completely disinterested in picking my skin, and my hands finally look normal for the first time in my life :)

    Anyways, thank you for reading. I'm new to meditation and just had to share with someone how great I feel!!

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    fuuuck man. that spaciousness you feel in your body the more you connect with pure awareness is fookin priceless

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 05:03 PM PST

    it feels so spacious. like i feel like theres endless room in my body. nothing else to say man lol

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    An important message to the people being "changed" by meditation

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 04:43 AM PST

    I have read posts on here about people losing friends because they have become "boring" and other people are talking about their distaste for other people's egos. I want to make this post to point out some very important things.

    Firstly, I will address the issue of changing and becoming "boring". Simply put, you still need to wrestle with your ego. I believe some people think that when you meditate, you must sit in silence all the time, you can't have any fun, go to parties, play games or do anything. You must sit on a cushion for eternity with your eyes closed. This is not true. In fact, it is the opposite. The Buddhist teaching of impermanence shows that you should enjoy the time you have with your friends. Do not sit and meditate or think about ego when you are with your friends. Mindfulness is living in the moment, so do it. Do not question your ego when talking to a friend of yours or a loved one, be kind to them and enjoy your time with them. You do not have to completely change your personality just because of meditation. Use meditation to become a better version of yourself, not a mindless robot.

    Secondly, I need to address this point I see of people commenting on other's egos. This is YOUR ego talking. If you are constantly thinking and judging how other people live and act, you are living in your own ego. You could say to me, 'But UrbulGroOrkulg, you're doing that right now!' I am not. I do not walk the streets and see someone on their phone and say, 'Ugh, I wish they were more mindful like me.' I simply let them live their life, as should you.

    Those who come here and post about their judgement for people must be at the beginning of their cycle of meditation. This will go away, but you need to address it first. This is important. Most of us are here to clear the ego from our world. We should never spend our time judging anyone negatively when we do not know about them.

    You could be walking the street and you see someone on their phone. You say, 'Ugh, I wish they would be more mindful, like me.' But what you do not realise is they have just received an important message. They were participating in walking meditation. They are actually a Buddhist and have been for twenty years, since they were very young. They have spent the last hour walking through nature, observing nature and breathing mindfully when they received a text. Perhaps the text was bad news, perhaps it was good news, or perhaps they pulled out their phone for ten seconds to see what the message said, then put it back in their pocket. You do not know the stories of people's lives and thus we can never comment or judge other people from a snippet of what we see.

    I will end this with a simple message: Be careful about your ego. Be careful about your mind. We are all made from the same elements. We are all travelling through space on the same planet. We are all part of the same life. Use your meditation to improve yourself, not others. Do not look to one of your friends, while at a party, and tell them they should meditate. Perhaps you could say it helped you, but you cannot force your friends to be like you, nor should you. They live their life, you live yours, and we are all interconnected. Enjoy meditation. Do not let it pull you apart from your friends or family, use it to pull you closer together.

    Thank you for reading and I hope you have a good day.

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    Give your mind permission to take some time off

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 04:02 AM PST

    During a quick meditation today a thought occurred to me (or rather and understanding between thoughts) that the mind, almost seemingly independently from our own emotions, has its 'own' sense of guilt and uselessness when it's not on active duty and involved.

    We want to experience a better state of being - calmer, more at peace, less mind identification etc and the mind can't help but get involved in every way it can to try and 'help' us 'get there' by grasping for answers and understanding. I realised however that if you have trouble being absorbed and swept away by thought and it takes a long time to bring your attention back to focus, a helpful first step is to simply allow your mind to take some time off from its compulsion to try to fix things. Almost like you're assuring it nothing bad will happen if it lets its guard down.

    This might seem obvious and is of course just another way to explain a part of mindfulness but it's another angle to approach it nonetheless. This way, we're not trying to fight the mind and we're still becoming aware of it when thoughts arise, but we're first letting it know that it doesn't have to work so hard.

    So, the bottom line is to be aware of the mind's compulsion to try to help by getting involved in the process, recognise it and give it permission to take some time off while you (awareness) take over and continue your usual meditation practice.

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    Your body is just a costume.

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 08:19 PM PST

    The real you is what's behind your eyes. Nobody can see it or touch it, or even describe it. But it's the same one looking through everybody else's eyes as well. This is what it means when people say we're all one.

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    Flashbacks??

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 03:13 AM PST

    I've been meditating on and off for a couple of years now but more recently have been a lot more consistent with it. I've started getting random flashbacks to my early childhood or memories that I haven't thought about for years and years.

    Does anyone else get this? It often happens when I kind of gaze at things or am in a moment of stillness. I guess it sort of makes sense as you open up your mind a bit, but just wondering if anyone can shed any light on this?

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    What time of day do you prefer to meditate and why?

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 07:55 AM PST

    I cant stop myself daydreaming. Can meditation help me?

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 04:53 AM PST

    Is there any physical differences in the brain for people who constantly daydream and to those who meditate? Can I reverse this through neuroplasticity using meditation? Pls help me.

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    i fell asleep

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 04:02 AM PST

    hey u guysss so i've been meditating for couple years now and im good at it i can control my thoughts and all and i did for sure saw the difference, but i always fell asleep no matter what... is it a bad thing? am i losing some benefits?

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    Found this wonderful analogy by Catherine Mckenzie

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 11:23 PM PST

    "They say that if a butterfly flaps its wings in the Amazonian rain forest, it can change the weather half a world away. Chaos theory. What it means is that everything that happens in this moment is an accumulation of everything that's come before it. Every breath. Every thought. There is no innocent action"

    What I deduce is that, 'Never stop flapping your wings.'

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    I have never meditated before

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 11:50 PM PST

    Hello everyone!! I'm new.. And I don't have a clear idea of what meditation is... But I want to share an experience.

    One day I remember myself being really grateful for what I had in that moment of the day... Even tho my previous days were terrible and full of tears. Well.. The main idea is that I started to see a very strong yellow light and it feelt good and peaceful at the same time. I was curious... But I didn't wanna make it disappear so I just lived in that moment of " light" let's say.

    Does anyone know the reason or what does that light mean? I've never experienced that before. I have to mention that I do not meditate.. But I thought maybe I had a moment of meditation without me knowing this... Because I didn't close my eyes or anything.. I could see that light in my mind... In my forehead somehow.

    I'm sorry for my english... I'm not a native speaker and I'm still learning.

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    How to avoid turning your meditation practice into yet another belief

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 03:17 AM PST

    I recently listened to a podcast with philosopher and professor of theoretical philosophy Thomas Metzinger on the Decustricging Yourself podcast where he talks about belief formation and how once you start to meditate you often start having thoughts along the lines:

    1. "I'm on a spiritual path. There's a ladder I can climb and reach the top of. I can become advanced at this. Maybe even enlightened one day."
    2. The second thing that often happens is that you start thinking "I need to find a master who can guide me. Someone I can believe in."

    He speaks about how this is the beginning of forming certain beliefs around your practice that might cause you to miss out on a lot of the great benefits of meditation.

    When I listened to this, it was rather painful because it made me realize that I was the person he was talking about. And it gave me an understanding of belief formation that I had not had before. It made me examine many of my own beliefs. This process has been highly liberating for me because you start to see that things you thought to be true were just something you had chosen to believe to be an absolute truth.

    Here's an excerpt of the interview where he talks about it. If you are meditating, I highly recommend you to listen to it:
    https://youtu.be/eb2AinoQ3Qw

    Did it hurt to listen to? Had similar thoughts? Agree with Metzinger?

    I wrote some more reflections here if anyone is interested:
    https://www.fivedegreechange.com/blog/beliefs

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    Do you enjoy meditation, and do you find it helps you to think clearer?

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 05:28 AM PST

    I'm not sure if these things are the purpose of meditation, but I'm wondering if people get this out if it.

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    Did social media affect your anxiety levels during lockdown? (UK)

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 08:35 AM PST

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    Next Headspace Course To Begin After "The Basics" ?

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 08:27 AM PST

    Hi all, I would really appreciate some suggestions as to what next Headspace course I should begin after completing the 3-part basics course.

    I've been meditating since 2016 on and off (9,065 minutes logged). The longest streak I've ever held was a 35 day streak where I completed the basics courses and then went on to another course like anxiety, creativity etc but never was able to have the will power to finish those courses. For some reason, I'm only able to meditate consecutively with The Basics course, but after that I can't seem to continue everyday on another course.

    I really want to find a course that will help me continue this and deepen my practice. So, what are your thoughts on the best course to start right after completing the basics? I'm trying my best to keep this an essential daily practice.

    I'm also eyeing the "Deepen Your Practice" course as the next one to begin. Does anyone have any experience with that? Has it helped you continue your streaks or willingness to meditate after The Basics?

    Thanks!

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    Question on a particular phenomena

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 08:09 AM PST

    I'm certain this passing feeling is related to my practice, but I'm not sure what to make of it, whether it being progress or merely a psychological event that should be let go of. If anyone has any insight or has experienced something similar, I'd appreciate your thoughts.

    Over the last couple of days I've experienced what I can only describe as a "vanishing" glimpse, happens only for a moment and everything returns to normal. What I mean is, for a moment, maybe only a few seconds, everything, including myself and my environment dissolves completely, it is as if I nor nothing else is anywhere at all, yet I am aware of the event. It's not frightening, nor spectacular, but it happens. Suddenly everything is completely gone. Any ideas?

    I should note I have never experienced anything like it prior to taking up a meditation practice. Thanks in advance.

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    Advice for meditating after a brain injury

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 08:08 AM PST

    Hi all!

    I have been meditating for around two months now. I'm not perfect in my consistency, but I'm devoted to the process and know that meditation is valuable for me.

    On Saturday (three days ago) I was skateboarding with some friends and while doing a simple kickturn - something I have done one hundred thousand times - my board slipped straight out and I fell straight back, hitting my head on the concrete faster than I could process what was happening. My boyfriend suspects, since it was a skatepark at a beach, that I caught some sand under my wheels, which would have made me lose all traction. I was unconscious for a moment, and then I regained some semblance of consciousness but could only perceive light and color. The blue of the sky, the tan of the concrete. No shapes, no sounds but a buzzing, quite literally as if my brain was rattling in my skull. I felt my body go stock stiff as I tried to move, and I found I couldn't. I was paralyzed. I can recall certain thoughts entering my consciousness, such as:

    - Is this happening in real life?

    - What is happening?

    - Did I fall?

    - Am I going to have a seizure?

    - Am I dying? I am fighting to come back to life right now.

    Now that I am in my right mind, I know the answers to all of those questions. I wasn't dying, I wasn't about to have a seizure. I just conked my noggin real properly. I slowly began to perceive sound and could hear people yelling at me, telling me not to move. Then, my sight returned, and slowly my ability to move. Felt very drunk afterward, with a sharp pain in my collarbone area. Went to the ER, got checked out. No observable brain or bone damage, but muscle spasms in my neck and chest, which will heal, and a proper concussion, which should leave me feeling dizzy and somewhat hazy for the next couple of weeks.

    Ever since I have been having intrusive thoughts about the incident and when I observe those thoughts, I believe their source is regret. I find myself resentful of the fact that I was doing something so simple. I think about how, moments before, a friend asked me if I wanted to skate a different obstacle and I said no, I wanted to continue to warm up where I was. I was having such a good morning, why did that have to happen? Why wasn't I more aware? Why didn't I catch myself? I've done that trick countless times and I've fallen countless times and I've never hit my head like that. Why then? What if, when I try to skate again, I find myself somehow incapable?

    Not to mention, what if my brain is forever altered and I've just yet to discover how? What if the consciousness I was intimately getting to know is now different? What have I lost by this action?

    Here's what I would like some advice on (not limited to, of course):

    1. I haven't meditated since the incident, but I plan to today, and I detect fear. Maybe fear of finding that I am different now, or that I can't connect. Fear of encountering those intrusive thoughts. What are some strategies for leaning back into meditation when a life event has pushed you to lean away?
    2. Any advice about this regret?

    Thanks for all the help you guys can provide.

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    Calm v. Headspace

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 07:52 AM PST

    So I made a premium account for the Calm app impulsively on a stressful day earlier this year. But, I haven't used it as much as I'd want.

    I've heard Headspace is nice and has a student discount, which I'd love. I already paid something like $69 for Calm and I do like the different music, meditations, and such. To anyone who's used both: which do you prefer?

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    Anxiety while meditating

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 07:52 AM PST

    Over the quarantine I decided to try and pick up meditation, I've been on and off it for about a year now but recently I decided to make a commitment to try and meditate everyday. For the first few days everything was fine and I had no real issues. Soon though I began to feel a lot of anxiety while meditating which often continues after I'm finished. Is this normal? Should I continue because I honestly feel better not meditating. Any advice would be great, Thanks

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    We cannot legislate Love.

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 07:12 AM PST

    The basic problem with the world is that those in power try to legislate with the mind only that which can be realized within our hearts. How can we realize love for others, if we cannot find it in ourselves first.

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    One wants to throw away unpleasant thoughts and retain pleasant ones. Nothing can be thrown out of the mind. Once one sees this, meditation has happened.

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 07:09 AM PST

    It is not confusion that troubles one but one wants relief, stable relief through thinking. As this is not possible, confusion or contradictory thoughts trouble one. One wants to throw away unpleasant thoughts and retain pleasant ones.

    Nothing can be thrown out of the mind. Once you notice this - you are on the Original ground. Meditation has happened.

    We think as ifwe can enjoy the comfort of, relief :

    Of having flawless choices;

    Of controlling others;

    Of knowing, confirming the result, future;

    Of our ideas not being challenged;

    Of not-committing errors.

    As this is not possible, thinking multiplies.

    Once you notice this fact, thinking is automatically restricted to its actual function.

    Any action or no-action is relaxed, conscious.

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    How to embrace uncertainty?

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 07:05 AM PST

    I don't know if this is the right sub to ask such question but whenever there's uncertainty in life, I get anxious. So I want to be comfortable w uncertainty and move forward in life and accept whatever life throws at me.

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    30 Minutes of Relaxing, Sleep and Meditation Music

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 07:01 AM PST

    30 Minutes of Relaxing, Sleep and Meditation Music

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    Meditation is complex but so simple at the same time

    Posted: 22 Feb 2021 10:16 PM PST

    I am a beginner at meditation but what I can learn from my experiences so far is that being mean/judging or cursing at yourself for not achieving something or having unrelated thoughts just lowers your self worth and respect to yourself, making it harder to explore your emotions and be calm along side them.

    Whenever you feel like cursing yourself, think of what a therapist or kind friend would say to you if they were in your head while you are meditating and it becomes a lot easier to handle some of the things meditation can bring to you. Good luck everyone and I hope you all find this helps! <3

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    Is using something like binaural beats a good way to meditate

    Posted: 23 Feb 2021 06:41 AM PST

    Or is it practically worse for meditating? I heard mixed results from people and I want to know if similar beats/sounds etc will improve or worse meditation.

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