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    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - August 10 2020

    Meditation: Weekly Discussion - August 10 2020


    Weekly Discussion - August 10 2020

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 08:09 AM PDT

    This is a reoccuring thread for questions relating to your practice and discussion around your experiences.

    Questions

    Ask questions relating to your practice, the theory of meditation, various traditions and lineages of thought, or practical tips. If you're new, please read our FAQ before posting, as it contains a wealth of information that all of us should come back to occasionally.

    Discussion

    Also use this thread for a more free-form discussion of your experiences and other tidbits that might not warrant their own full post. Use this space to connect with the /r/meditation community, it won't be heavily moderated.

    Also check out the monthly meditation challenge.

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    The rise in popularity in mindfulness and meditation is not a coincidence. We live in some of the most unfulfilling and disconnected of times.

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 05:17 PM PDT

    If you live life totally unconcious and "asleep", modern 1st world societies are so devoid of deep connections, moments of peace, quiet, slow contemplation, that one easily grows desperate for something they don't even understand they need. I think the epidemic of depression and anxiety in the west is very much a symptom of this.

    We live lives of sound bites, tweets, likes, visual and sensoral overstimulation; for everything else is so dull by comparison. There is such a lack of quiet comtemplative acceptance. Everything is surface level, we have an ocean of experiences to feast on 2mm deep. Everything is done to an extreme, gaudy, loud, excessive. Anything to drown out the quiet whisper in the background "there is nothing here".

    We are unconciously drowning in despair and longing for even the smallest bit of peace, quiet, present acceptance of the now. For our own self found meaning, self forged purpose that is free of external dependencies.

    Instead we chase a million unsatisfactory likes, validations, affirmations. Modern society has made drug addicts of all of us, itching and yearning for that next hit. Uncomfortable in our very skin, clawing to get out. Love me, like me, give me hapiness, distract me, titalate me, numb me. Anything to not need.

    Every generation of human beings on this planet of course has struggled with presence. But no society in history has been born into such a deluge of sense numbing disconnection from the things that bring real peace. Nature, sun, the rain, a quiet walk at night, the sound of birds, an hour alone, peace, even feeling our negative emotions we numb. Crying can be so cathartic. We are so scared to feel.

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    Your Body does not belong to you

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 06:48 PM PDT

    Blissful acknowledgement

    We are not our bodies, we are the oneness that resides in the bodies, that oneness exists in every single living organism.

    We are gifted these bodies from the divine source so that we can have an experience, an experience of love.

    Yet so many don't look after their bodies, don't love their bodies and deny themselves. By doing this you are denying the oneness, the expression of love, you are the everything that ever was and everything that ever will be, once you deny your body you deny love from yourself.

    Once you start to accept yourself so will others, see what we manifest in ourselves attracts more of the same, not materially but emotionally. We are notions of energy, that is all.

    This body is a gift, don't deny thyself from enjoying this gift and turning into love, the highest vibrancy you will ever experience. 💚💚💚💚

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    I feel like I don’t deserve meditation because I’m a bad person

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 10:32 AM PDT

    I feel scared to meditate because I do not feel like I am a good person right now. In relationships I have certainly not been a very good partner to friends or lovers. I feel like I don't deserve to meditate since I am unhappy with myself. I think i'm a bad person and it eats me alive every day. I feel incredible guilt all the time and feel like I do not deserve the thing that brings me peace. Any advice? I'd love everyone's input. I've been riddled with anxiety recently.

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    I just want to share this mantra. DO NOTHING WITHOUT INTENTION I REPEAT DO NOTHING WITHOUT INTENTION —> how to be your highest self.

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 02:45 PM PDT

    This was written while I was stuck in a time loop the date is 10/AUGUST/2020 22:45pm

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    I realized there is nothing I wanna do

    Posted: 11 Aug 2020 12:36 AM PDT

    I apologize for grammar. As I start to realize that I'm the universe itself and life is like wind, just come and go, I get kind of anxious at the same time due to having no desire at all. I do want to be healthy and keep living and feeling as much as I can because I believe that being born as human is like gifts. Being able to feel emotions and question the existence of everything is such blessing for me. However, I have no goal like dream jobs or anything. I spent months asking myself as I meditate to know what I truly want even if I have to go through long time to achieve. I find none. No interest in anything. I just want to relax and live by myself for as long as I can with no worries of this world. But I need to have money to do so, then I would need jobs, but I don't want to do something I don't want to do or have no interest. People would say I'm irresponsible but I learned through long questioning and I have no desire in anything. I'm not depressed tho. I just don't wanna work. I just wish I have enoguh money that I don't need to worry about working nor money so I can be living comfortably with meditation. You know Jim Carry one said he wishes people would be all millionaire so they can have time to learn the reality of life. I even think death may be the option. I'm not afraid of death tho. I realized it is the most purest natural form of life and there is no point in worrying about afterlife. Idk what to do.

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    Tips on posture

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 08:49 PM PDT

    I've recently started to practice meditation, I'm around 190 pounds and have a hunched over posture. I often find it difficult to sit up straight during my sessions. Any tips?

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    Just want to know what you do...how do you meditate?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 03:46 PM PDT

    I sat in relaxed cross legged position, closed my eyes and breathed. Thought about a few things...opened my eyes after a while and just stared at some of the trees in my backyard.

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    Help me understand meditation.... is thinking about my breathing really that useful?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 01:04 PM PDT

    I have been taught to focus on my breathing when I meditate. Usually this just makes me feel bored and like a waste of time. Am I doing something wrong? I just don't get it.

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    If the self and ego are an illusion, where does the desire/drive to see through the illusion come from?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 05:02 PM PDT

    The day meditation changed my life.

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 11:29 AM PDT

    I grew up in a Christian family. In fact that christian ideology is about all I knew in the world. I had never heard of anyone in my personal life that had meditated. Id been exposed via movies or cartoons. Meditation was considered kooky or almost like witch craft type stuff from some of the people in my community. Needless to say meditation wasn't on my mind.

    Throughout the years I continued going to a Christian Church. Living life. Meanwhile partying, drinking, sexing it up and generally finding various forms of debauchery. In fact, it all came down and I ended up with a divorce. I went through a phase of hatred for myself and a general hate for everyone in the world. I hated God or even the concept of God. I stopped going to church. I ended up suicidal.

    Luckily people stepped in to keep me here on earth. One night a friend came by to visit with me. She and I had a few deep talks and then she offered me a smoke. I took a puff, and then we just started star gazing. After a bit I closed my eyes. I was sitting in a hard wooden chair on my porch. I was so comfortable and happy to have company and conversation. I felt the summers night breeze and heard crickets. I just kept sitting and listening to the whole experience.

    Then something incredible happened that I can never fully explain in words. Yet I will try. After sitting for some time with my eyes closed listening to the night. I all of a sudden didn't hear anything anymore. Infact it just seemed dark. Pitch black. A void. Truly nothing seemed to exist. In fact I was aware that I myself didn't exist. There was no I, no me. Just blackness. Yet I wasn't afraid or confused. Actually I felt warmth and love. Happiness that felt like it was bubbling up from some spring of joy at the center of me. What ever "me" was in the moment.

    Out of the corner of my eye I perceived a light. It seemed faint at first and so far away. The mind can't imagine it. Yet I felt my awareness being pulled towards this light. The light seemed to get bigger and brighter, until I realized in this infinite expanse of blackness there was this massive river of light. I say river because it had an ebb and flow to it. The middle would be so piercing white and bright you couldn't fathom, and yet it's outer edges had hues of orange yellow and even some red. Almost like a giant river of light that was the purest flame you ever saw.

    I kept flowing towards the center of this river. By center I don't mean middle of it's length, because it was infinite. I mean center like it's core of the river. I was gravitating towards it's most brightest blinding light. All I could see was blinding bright light 360 degrees around me. Enveloping me. No longer a black void.

    Meanwhile this whole time during this flow it was one everlasting epiphany. We are all one. Everyone is that same Devine light. The light was me. I wasn't a physical being on earth with all this baggage and suffering. I was just light and love, and speaking of love.. that's all I felt. The bliss and joy and love I felt I can't explain to you in human words. There is no word or sentence that can do that feeling justice. It's as if your whole being was pure love. That feeling, but the feeling is this unbound light shining to the ends of time and back.

    Time itself didn't exist. Nothing did. I wasn't worried about my family, job, or any material thing. I knew everything is exactly as it should be and there is Devine balance. The knowing I had I could only relate to all knowing. I knew the answers to any thought that bubbled up but there was not even thought. It was just a never ending flow of awareness. At its peak it was just pure white light, pure love and bliss, and pure awareness.

    However, my friend that had come over for conversation all of a sudden shook me out of my trance. She told me I had been sitting with a smirk on my face and my eyes open just a sliver. Unmoving for 35 min. She was worried about me. Thought my brain had fried because at this point it was 1am.

    At this point it felt like a dream. You know when you wake up and had this beautiful dream you didn't want to wake up from, but sadly once you woke it started to quickly vanish? Well that's kind of how this felt. The "all awareness" was gone. The light was gone, and the love was back to human level. I was actually sad and frustrated with my friend for waking me at the time.

    What I experienced stuck with me though. It changed my views on Christianity. It changed my views on my self guilt and hatred. It made me curious about my experience. It lead me to the Tibetan book of the dead. To Hinduism. To Buddhism. It led me to yoga. To deep meditation practice. It took me away from drugs and alcohol. Meditation saved my life, because it opened my mind heart. I know the truth even if I don't feel it purely or accurately every day. I know deep inside we are all that Devine light and consciousness. I know we are all one. Anyway thank you for reading for anyone who has. Sorry it's so long winded. Just wanted to share my story and truth.

    Meditation is the means to so many freedoms. Inside and out. On all planes of existence and for whatever life we have. Whether you believe in God or not(I do) meditation still is so beautiful and beneficial that I wish everyone on earth practiced. Regardless of beliefs. Thanks for your time. Namaste

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    i started sobbing uncontrollably during meditation and didn't realize until after?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 03:07 PM PDT

    hi all.

    today i burst into tears while meditating. i experienced heaving sobs all while my eyes were still shut. i was repeating the "hamsa" mantra (which translates to "i am that" and mimics the sound of the breath, with "ham" being the and inhale and "sa" being the exhale), reached a stillness of thought ive yet to achieve and my body lost it.

    upon reflection post meditation, i have finally realized how badly i've treated myself and think this is a part of why i had such a strong release of pent up sadness. i have finally realized that only i can undo that damage, and forgive myself for being so hurtful. i feel like this is my moment of finally unlocking what meditation really is.

    has anyone else had an experience like this? if so, what do you think it was/is, and what do you think caused it?

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    The one self in disguise

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 10:15 PM PDT

    Law of attraction, manifestations in theta state. Diversion from real meditation path ?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 09:48 PM PDT

    There are thousands of videos on you tube and guided meditations about using meditation to our advantage. They do this by basically visualizing what you want to achieve once you hit the theta state of mind during meditation.

    I am somewhat confused about practicing meditation this way because from what i have learnt by listing to spiritual teachers and experienced meditators, its about reaching the 0, state of no thoughts whatsoever and live in the present moment.

    My question is about the validation of this techique of law of attraction while in theta state. Would you advice to practice meditation this way ? Does it work ?

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    Weird thing happened

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 09:42 PM PDT

    So i was meditating as usual and at the end i started to feel something at my belly like it was going to explode, i felt an extreme urge to stop the meditation and my eyes felt like they were going to pop out of their sockets and my heart was racing like crazy, just wtf, never felt something like that anyone knows what just happened?

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    Insight Meditation: How do the parts fit?

    Posted: 11 Aug 2020 12:46 AM PDT

    Hey there! Quick question: I came across some insight meditation instructionals by Kornfield, Goldstein, Salzberg and there are always guided meditations that focus on different aspects (body sensations, feeling tone, thoughts etc.) but I don`t get how I should deal with all these aspects after those guided meditations? Are they all part of of the same session? Do I just focus on the breath and then on those different areas if/when they arise? Or is there a specific order to this practice? Thank you!

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    Don’t breathe, don’t do anything. Let your body breathe, it may be uncomfortable, but it’s a part of surrendering.

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 05:06 PM PDT

    What's the point in watching your breath if you're consciously controlling it? Give up control, no matter how uncomfortable. I'm not saying to hold your breath, obviously, just stop breathing, and let your body breathe for you, or try not to breathe without holding your breath until you have to because you feel an intense feeling in your stomach.

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    What do you do when you're bored?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 02:44 PM PDT

    Curious what people do. I've been practicing meditation and have been trying to live a quieter and simpler lifestyle lately, but I find myself bored quite often.

    The boredom often comes with anxiety as i feel an indecisiveness about how to spend my time. I think part of my brain is saying you should be doing something enjoyable right now. But I know not every moment of my life needs to be fun.

    Do I need to come to grips that boredom is okay, or is there a better way to approach this feeling? Thanks in advance for any insights.

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    I have been listening to Alan Watts and I'm not sure by what he means awake.

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 06:22 PM PDT

    Many of his lectures seem to me a reminder that with the good, you have to have the bad, in order to understand..when you're good. A little joke but I get it, at least on the level that I exist, as a manifestion of the universe, and that everyone and everything is playing out a role in existence.

    He mentions it as a game we are playing, as useful metaphor so as not to be overly anxious from moment to moment about our existence.

    The guy could talk. It was clearly a gift. But I am troubled by what does he mean to be awake or awaken in the moment to moment.

    I find that meditating helps me remember to be aware of the present moment and watch my thoughts as I cook, or write an email, or whatever it is and I try to find joy in the process itself. Sometimes it works and other times, it feels like extra work. Like maybe in should just pay attention to how I'm cutting this tomato and forget focusing on watching my thoughts as I cut this thing. Right?

    So, my question is, what am I expected to transpire here? That I'll get stronger at watching my thoughts? That I'll calm down before flying off the handle at the next person that cuts me off on the way to pick up groceries?

    Is THAT what Alan Watts means by awaken? Awaken to my bad habits and give me a better moment to steer away from the usual reactions?

    He seems to mention it as monumental moment that is also utterly banal. So...how do we know when it really happens to yourself?

    I guess that's several questions.

    Thanks and peace!

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    Chaos can be turned into peace thru meditation, why don't we humans start practicing every day, instead of watching TV, playing video games or else?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 04:32 PM PDT

    Let us see, what is meditation? Meditation is the action or practice of meditating. What does meditation do? Meditation helps you relax, can help you manage pain, depression, and insomnia. The year 2019 was different, to say the least, I had two (2) surgeries, I was at the emergency room, twice before the first surgery and twice in between the surgeries, and a little after I finished with the surgeries, we welcomed coronavirus, and my mother past away. I could say without a doubt that meditation made the pain and the emptiness of my mother s departure easier to deal with. I could say that I might have achieved the same without meditation, but it is simply not true, I would most probably still be dealing with depression, if not worse. I have been meditating every day ever since, and my life keeps getting better, little by little, without pushing it. every piece will fall in place at the right time. No rush. Something tells me that the darkness I went thru is gone for good. I am assuming you do not have to go through a lot of problems before you start meditating, so, start here. How many people meditate in the United States? According to the Los Angeles Times, more than 35 million Americans have already given meditation a try. A Report from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention says that 14.2% of American adults surveyed in 2017 say they had practiced meditation in the past year. That is a big change from 4.1% in 2012, and the trend Is only growing. Are you one of them? I think you should be. People meditate for different reasons, some for spiritual purposes, others for medical purposes, either way, the benefits are great. A book such as this can help your start the practice. There are many reasons why you should do meditation, however, there is no one reason why you should not. Whether it is to get peace, to worship God, or both, meditation will get you there. It is also estimated that globally there are between 200 and 500 million people who meditate, and the trend continues to grow. I see what is going on around the world and I think, Yes, we need more people to meditate and make this chaos disappear. You have never, ever, woke up and wished that one-day chaos is out of everyone's life for good? I know I have. many times. I also know the end to this chaos does not seem to be near unless of course, we do something to remediate the problem. Once again, we need peace to get organized, a good way to achieve it is thru meditation. Not a day goes by that I don't wish everything was as peaceful and wonderful as it was when I was growing up, but the truth is, that world is not coming back unless I want it to do so, If we have peace inside us, we will offer peace, if we have chaos, that is what we will offer, so we need peace in us. Don't you think? Oh. What to do? Some books can help you achieve this, then again the initiative must come from You! I know, you think Superman and Supergirl are going to take us out of this chaotic place, let' see! Whoops, I do not think that is going to happen anytime soon. We hope that all problems will magically disappear, but it will not be so, we must first start creating solutions instead of creating problems. The day when that happens, we will be fine. Start doing it and do not ever stop. We spend countless hours watching TV, playing games, does it make sense we have no time to improve our world?

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    Open to Meditation Suggestions

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 11:58 PM PDT

    I have practiced limited meditation on and off my whole life and now I am getting back into it.

    The form I use is one of the first I read about - with each breath out I count up from 1 to 100. It usually takes me about 15 minutes. Sometimes when I reach 100 I count back down. Sometimes I visualize each number - but that varies.

    I am interested in furthering my practice and open to suggestions and recommendations.

    Possibly there are some clean and concise books I should read.

    I am not spiritual or religious so that is oftentimes a limiter on my patience for some.

    Thank you in advance.

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    Anyone ever dose off while meditating?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 01:00 PM PDT

    Hi, occasionally I fall half asleep when meditating. If its a guided meditation sometimes my mind blanks out or thinks of other things and I do not hear the voice of the guide. Any suggestions on fixing this?

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    Questions about the Silva Method

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 05:36 PM PDT

    I hope this is the right sub to post in. I've recently started learning more about and practicing the Silva Method but I have a few questions:

    • during the visualization exercises where you are supposed to project yourself/your visualization onto a mental monitor, are you supposed to visualize the scene through your own eyes (your POV) or from an outside POV (seeing yourself and the scene)
    • I've noticed that my breathing is quite shallow when doing the centering exercise, unlike when I'm doing passive meditation. Is this okay?
    • do you do the centering exercise every day? Or is it used only to get familiar with entering the alpha state?
    • regarding the 3-finger technique, can I practice this during the centering exercise (while in alpha)?
    • has anyone actually had success with ESP?
    • is anyone here a recent graduate from the Silva method workshop? Was is worth it?

    Thanks!!

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    Why did I feel so terrible after meditating?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 10:11 AM PDT

    My boyfriend and I meditated the other morning. I tend to like to do it at the end of the day but I figured meditating in the morning would be a great way to start the day.

    I was wrong. Not even ten minutes in and I am crying and feeling tons of emotions. Instead of meditating through it I chose to stop, which was probably where I went wrong. I spent the next few hours in a TERRIBLE mood. Eventually it wore off but man, I would never wish that on anyone. I don't understand why it happened.

    I am still grieving the death of my mom, which happened last July. So I do know that some of the emotion came from that, I guess also part of my frustration came from that too bc I am just so tired from being so sad. Meditation has brought up emotions for me before, but I've never felt this bad during and after a meditation before.

    Now I'm a little afraid to meditate again. I at least will wait until bed time when I feel I have time to feel those big emotions. But it was a little disheartening feeling so terrible during and afterwards. I guess I need to do some soul searching to understand why I reacted to meditating the way I did. I must be repressing more than I thought.

    My boyfriend and I also just moved in together and it's been going great, but I do tend to absorb other people's energies and then can't tell what emotions are mine. Is it also possible that meditating with him caused me to absorb negative energy from him? He felt GREAT after meditating and I was left with a lot of negative and heavy energy. Should I be meditating alone instead like I used to?

    I just don't want this to continue to happen, I know it will on and off due to grief, but I'd like to minimize these negative experiences with mediation bc I don't want it to cause me more stress. Mediation has helped me a lot, but now I'm a little afraid of it.

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    Why is it so hard for me to accept pain and suffering?

    Posted: 10 Aug 2020 09:06 AM PDT

    The one thing I dont understand about people who meditate is how do they accept this as reality? Im talking both mental and physical pain, emotional too. Everytime I try to accept reality as is my fears spring up reminding me of the time I got hurt and it feels like Im literally getting hurt right now even tho nothing is hurting me physically.

    How do I get past this? I judge the pain by running away from it because it hurts really badly. Please help me.

    Edit: It feels like I cant handle this feeling. I stop and observe it but it hurts like hell nontheless. Help me..m

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